Regional war is ahead?

[Salome]

Many talks about a coming war lately, and clearly there is a mounting tension and some preparations taking place. Well timed operations in Gaza, and peace negotiation initiative on the other hand (same old story), meanwhile Israel looking forward to a settlement with Syria. lol like they would care about Syria or any Golan...

Anyway the goal is clear, to eliminate HA and to undermine the Iranian nuclear aspirations.

In this coming regional war, Syria may take a surprising (?) stance, regardless of any pathetic bashings from Bush junior.

What do you think, could the tension intensify so that it broadens into a regional war?

An interesting article to ponder on:

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[CEDARLAND]

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What do you think, could the tension intensify so that it broadens into a regional war?

In response to Salome
This is a complex question which requires a complex answer.
Let us break it down bit by bit to see a bit clearer. By the way I am not a fortune-teller. My goal is to describe the mindset of our current leaders in order to make some reasonably sound political predictions.

Ask yourself :
who is the true decision-maker in the whole war GO or NO GO process?

Lebanon ?
Syria ? or
Israel ?

In my opinion the true decision-maker in this process is Iran followed by USA & Israel. Lebanon & Syria can be viewed as satellite states who would either grab the opportunity or discreetly frustrate the israeli/iranian decision if they do not see it in their interests.

Lebanon sees itself as a playground for foreign powers who want to settle scores among themselves - including Israel Syria and KSA. After the heavy heavy heavy price (as Olmert put it) Lebanon paid during the july war PM F.Siniora is doing his best to get Lebanon out of this equation therefore adopting a neutral stand. This is not to say that a minor fraction of Lebanese (not officially speaking of course) would secretly welcome an upcoming war if it rids them of HA once for all (no need to give names-they are well known). However the general public in Lebanon is absolutely hostile to the upcoming war - whether initiated by HA or Israel or both.

On the other hand, if Israeli leaders are keen on making a come back after the july war, they will certainly not wait until Obama is sworn president in the white house since everyone knows how vital is US support for Israel to wage war. Israel knows that Bush is the most Pro Israel US president ever throughout history and this opportunity may never come back again. And both Israeli and american leaders know that time is running out.

Now if you go ask Iranian leaders the answer to your question lies here



In conclusion all ingredients are set in for a LOCAL (Israel vs Lebanon) or regional (Israel Europe USA vs Lebanon & Syria & Iran). All is needed is just one single spark.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by CEDARLAND

In conclusion all ingredients are set in for a LOCAL (Israel vs Lebanon) or regional (Israel Europe USA vs Lebanon & Syria & Iran). All is needed is just one single spark.

Why do you think Syria would stand with Lebanon in one line?

[CEDARLAND]

Are you suggesting that Syria is ready to switch sides ?

[CEDARLAND]

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[Learned]

Sorry to burst your bubble (as well as your fancy scanning skills) CEDARLAND, but there are literally dosens of books like this, all written by authors who have not studied in a hawza and are not qualified to make the statements and claims that they do. They certianly do not represent the views of "Iranian leaders", so your statement is grossly misleading.

In reality, according to Shia Ithna Ashari ideology, no person among humanity can ever be in a position (whether they are a religous scholar or not) to predict or delinate when/how the age of thuhoor is. There is a hadeeth that states "kathiba al muwaqitoon walaw sadaqu", which was stated by one of the Shia Imams in reference to the question of thuhoor. If independent authors want to make unsubstantiated claims and broad characterizations of conflicts and struggles in a religous messianic context, in a time where rhetoric like this sells well, this is their choice and they have the freedom to publish what they want.

However, I fail to see how the writings of these people translate into the view of the Iranian leadership. Even if it was the case that some Iranian leaders (such as Ahmadinejad), may hold strongly to some of these views, I would point out that he has been criticized heavily on this issue by scholars outside the government framework and politicians and leaders within the government as well.

So please try to have a little bit in objectivity and attachment to reality when you make broad characterizations about others. Thanks.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by CEDARLAND

Are you suggesting that Syria is ready to switch sides ?

Whatever it suits to their interest and to the survival of the regime. If they need Bush or Olmert to it, they will go for it.

[CEDARLAND]

Originally Posted by Learned

Sorry to burst your bubble (as well as your fancy scanning skills) CEDARLAND, but there are literally dosens of books like this, all written by authors who have not studied in a hawza and are not qualified to make the statements and claims that they do. They certianly do not represent the views of "Iranian leaders", so your statement is grossly misleading.

In reality, according to Shia Ithna Ashari ideology, no person among humanity can ever be in a position (whether they are a religous scholar or not) to predict or delinate when/how the age of thuhoor is. There is a hadeeth that states "kathiba al muwaqitoon walaw sadaqu", which was stated by one of the Shia Imams in reference to the question of thuhoor. If independent authors want to make unsubstantiated claims and broad characterizations of conflicts and struggles in a religous messianic context, in a time where rhetoric like this sells well, this is their choice and they have the freedom to publish what they want.

However, I fail to see how the writings of these people translate into the view of the Iranian leadership. Even if it was the case that some Iranian leaders (such as Ahmadinejad), may hold strongly to some of these views, I would point out that he has been criticized heavily on this issue by scholars outside the government framework and politicians and leaders within the government as well.

So please try to have a little bit in objectivity and attachment to reality when you make broad characterizations about others. Thanks.

مجلة نشرها حزب الله في جنوب لبنان حول علامات ظهور المهدي

خاص . حصلت أخبار العراق على مجلة وزعها حزب الله اللبناني في جنوب لبنان حول عقيدته الحالية في ظهور المهدي وهذه صفحات المجلة