Is peace impossible?

[TripolySunni]

Originally Posted by Salome

On both sides we have the majority now who doesnt want peace, and there is a minority who is willing to seek peace...dont know if they are enough for a hope

The Israeli leaders fearing their own power and existence dont want peace...question is, is peace possible with a two state solution? Or both sides go for all or nothing

Israel doesn't want a two state solution We Must fight them until they are willing to do so.

[latinorange]

Originally Posted by Salome

On both sides we have the majority now who doesnt want peace, and there is a minority who is willing to seek peace...dont know if they are enough for a hope

The Israeli leaders fearing their own power and existence dont want peace...question is, is peace possible with a two state solution? Or both sides go for all or nothing

come on, the 2 state solution is one of the biggest jokes ever told...israel accepted that talk about 2 states while expanding its settlements all over the west bank...yesterday Netanyahu claimed that Jerusalen will be jewish 100%, and thus israel is cleaning the city of Palestinian areas and building jewish neighbourhoods...just check the news...

we can go on with this maskhara for decades and do Madrid, Oslo, Taba, Camp David...Honolulu, Barbados or Nouatchok if you wish...but the facts will stay the same...israel will occupy the space from the dead se to the mediterranean...time will proove me right...and the palestinians will be divided, some in Gaza, some to Jordan, a few absorved, and wait for the big event which will force millions outside...the pals are too desperate and ignorant to see it coming...they hang on to the left overs they are thrown...

you will not see peace in the ME...on the contrary

[Salome]

Originally Posted by latinorange

come on, the 2 state solution is one of the biggest jokes ever told...israel accepted that talk about 2 states while expanding its settlements all over the west bank...yesterday Neta-nyahu claimed that Jerusalen will be jewish 100%, and thus israel is cleaning the city of Palestinian areas and building jewish neighbourhoods...just check the news...

we can go on with this maskhara for decades and do Madrid, Oslo, Taba, Camp David...Honolulu, Barbados or Nouatchok if you wish...but the facts will stay the same...israel will occupy the space from the dead se to the mediterranean...time will proove me right...and the palestinians will be divided, some in Gaza, some to Jordan, a few absorved, and wait for the big event which will force millions outside...the pals are too desperate and ignorant to see it coming...they hang on to the left overs they are thrown...

you will not see peace in the ME...on the contrary

today am in a pessimist mood so I agree with what you said...

actually when Netanyahu was elected, that sent some alarming message that hope was never weaker than now...

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/me...ing/index.html

the term is the same since 60 years, "abandoned property"

[Zayn]

Originally Posted by Salome

Since the dialogue solution was a theatre show so far with players who are not interested in peace, it couldnt have brought a real solution yet. It doesnt mean though that the dialogue way itself is a wrong way.

If you would read correctly (just once) then you would see am not criticizing the Palestinian resistance as a whole, but certain methods which lead only to more violence.

Why shall I talk about Hezbollah here? Would be off topic no? But ask what you want to know yalla

Again, I will refer back to my original post in this thread:

I find your choice in which article to post about the perpetuation of a conflict very interesting. I know that you are strongly anti-Islam and very likely pro-Zionist, and I just found it very odd that you choose to focus only on Palestinian indoctrination. I mean, if you look at the environment in which the Palestinians live, their continued aspirations for a homeland, and the brutality in which their enemies/occupiers operate, then why do you act shocked or surprised by the hate that has fermented in the Palestinian collective consciousness? I brought up Hizballah because they are the Lebanese analogs to Hamas, nay all Palestinian resistance movements.

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by Salome

I fairly think so when I read such stories like this:





Since when has an "eye for an eye..." mentality solved anything? It just brought more violence and hatred...and here you see little kids being socialized with hatred and preparing them to be suicide soldiers

Thus the hope is lost that the new generations can bring peace....seemingly only a nuclear bomb would end all this suffering, I tend to think it is better than an eternal bloodshed

I think you are overreacting. No need for a nuke, there is a peace already.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by proIsrael-nonIsraeli

I think you are overreacting. No need for a nuke, there is a peace already.

yeah sure nobody would really drop a nuke, it is just to illustrate how desperate the situation is....


what peace??

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by Salome

yeah sure nobody would really drop a nuke, it is just to illustrate how desperate the situation is....


what peace??

I know you did not mean it. I was referring to your frustration actually.

And peace is absence of war.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by proIsrael-nonIsraeli

And peace is absence of war.

cease fire you mean? there is no peace treaty, the situation can explode any time

[Republican]

Originally Posted by Salome

nice quote thanks for bringing some poetry to this thread...but this conflict is anything but black and white, definitely I am not with the oppressor, and surely I wont support spreading hatred and manipulation of the children either

is that a clear answer enough?


...

Actually no,

The conflict is black and white, you say it is not, do prove how it isn't.
The oppressors are the ones manipulating the children and spreading hatred, when you brutally murder that child's parents in front of his eyes, what do you expect him to be when he grows up?

Aside from that, it is disturbing that you chose to focus on the Palestinian "terror", yet you bluntly omit mentioning a single word about the organized terrorism of the Hebrew state

I am just wondering,
Do you believe that the "Jewish People" are the rightful owner of this land, Palestine?

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by Salome

cease fire you mean? there is no peace treaty, the situation can explode any time

Call it what you will, but absence of war constitutes peace regardless.
Besides, piece of paper never stopped anybody. However, strong muscle did and still does.