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Originally Posted by Fragrance of Roses I ain't voting for Obama if Hils is not on his team... I am a devout Democrat, but I will certainly vote McCain this time if Senator Clinton won't be in the lead team. We know McCain's record. We know Hilary's record (pretty well), but excuse me? Who is Obama? How well can we trust him? I am not too comfortable with him being the lead runner for president.
Anyway... I am waiting to see what will happen. Hope all turns well... |
If you think of voting for McCain, then you certainly don't know his record, nor his program, nor himself as a person!
His record, program and person (both ideologically and intellectually) will make him a Bush III-type President!
I don't like Reagan, as I am a rather leftist-oriented person, but I can understand why people would vote for him. But McCain? I mean come on, people voted for Bush twice, they are disappointed today and say they wouldn't do it again! Yet many people won't mind making the famous "jamais 2 sans 3" - which doesn't mean "third time's a charm" - a reflection of their stupidity!
Really, Fragrant, don't hide behind your "I'm a devout democrat" lie! Either you act by conviction, or you refrain from talking nonsense!
If both Obama and McCain would be pro-Israeli, and even if Obama wins the Jewish vote prize, on all other aspects - national and internation politics -, Obama's a much better person and candidate for the job!
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Originally Posted by Aoune Yes we can if we get Americans vote who are Lebanese. |
Now let's talk about that: if I were voting for Obama, it would certainly not be because I'm Lebanese!
As a Lebanese, I would be voting for any 3rd candidate in order to express my distrust in both candidates (though I would never vote for a McCain-type character).
Democrats (Obama or Hillary alike) are the most pro-Israeli people on earth. This was proved during the AIPAC-meeting at which Obama and Hillary expressed their full commitment to Israel! Democrats got up to 40% of their budget from AIPAC last year, whereas Republicans got 20% of theirs!
Either way, Lebanon is kinda cooked! Israel has its position secured. But...
On the other hand, one has to be reminded of the overall history of American intervention, in the Middle East and in the World! Since the end of WWII, Republicans have waged more wars than any other party in the world and in History! They were even the dirtiest war, the most messed-up wars one can imagine!
If Democrats have also waged such wars, the ethical dimension does come in a better light for them, though not all the time! They have been more keen on tutoring peace-processes rather than wars!
So ask yourself that question: As a Lebanese, would you vote for a Democrat because they are better for Lebanon, or just less bad for it and for the World?