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Originally Posted by ius  You are a racist since you deny the Jews the right to immigrate to their ancestral home. |
This is totally incorrect. Even if I were to accept the idea that European Jews were indigenous to the land of Palestine (they are not), it still does not justify Zionism, which calls for a majority Jewish state in an area that is not majority Jewish. There are more Palestinians within historical Palestine (today's Israel, West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem) than there are Jews. So how is it that me, and the entire free world by extension, are racist for denying you the right to be racist?
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The Arabs were racist. They were against Jewish immigration. All the land pre-48 owned by the Jews was bought.
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More lies. The Jews failed miserably in their attempts to buy the land. How are the Arabs racist for being against Jewish immigration when they knew that they were coming to claim the land? The Balfour Declaration was not created after 1948. Neither was Zionism. These people had come to colonize the land decades prior to the 1948 war and al-Nakba. Do not act like this happened in a vacuum. Are Americans racists for being against illegal immigration by Mexicans to this country?
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As you can see, this map, which was obtained from the British census at the time, shows that Jews owned roughly 6% of the land. This makes you an enormous liar, and you are losing whatever credibility you had left on this board.
Jewish Owned Land in Palestine as of 1947
Also, do not tell me this website is biased. They got all of their data from the British who administrated this area at that time.
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You are racist because only of in the case of Israel would you argue that "dignity" is more important than partition. The partition did not take land from the Arabs. It just made some Arabs part of the Jewish state. They still owned their land. What is the problem with that unless you are racist and have something against Jews? Why is it not dignified to be ruled by Jews, except if you are racist?
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Again, this is a complete lie. This is about justice. You do not strip 55% of the land, including the most fertile land, from the indigenous inhabitants and allocate it to newcomer Europeans to compensate them for crimes brought upon them in Europe. The Palestinians did not gas the Jews. It does not matter who they are, the Palestinians would forcibly become apart of a Jewish state in which they would have suffered discrimination like they suffer in Israel today. This is not justice. The Arabs living within the 1947 vision of Israel would not own their land. Had this partition happened, the Jewish state would have been roughly 48% Arab. How does this fit into the framework of a majority Jewish state? It is obvious that they would not have kept their land, you idiot. Do not try to play history games with me because I have studied this history thoroughly and extensively from both Israeli and Palestinian sources. Do not parrot your propaganda here. It will not work. I will continue to cut you down with facts and sources until you finally decide to leave this forum for good. That is a promise.
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Well, if the Palestinians waited between 48 and 67 instead of building their state, it is their fault, not Israel's fault. They should not have waited. They should not have believed that they were going to kick the Jews into the sea. After 67, it took years till the first settlement. During this time, the Palestinians and Arabs refused to discuss peace. Again, clearly their fault.
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It is their fault that they were displaced by war? Really? So I guess it was also the Jews' fault that they were victims of genocide. Your logic is very stupid, you know that? Hindsight is always 20/20. At the time, the idea that Israel could be destroyed by force was credible. It is no longer so. Nobody expected the Arab armies to be defeated in six days and for the West Bank and Gaza to be swallowed up by Israeli settlements.
Rejoice, however, this colonialist outpost in the Middle East that you call "Israel" will disappear soon. Book your flight to South Africa while you can. I hear the World Cup is coming to town next year!
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Back to personal attacks? You really should get a girl friend.
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Perhaps this is a lack of intellect on your part, but it's not wise to accuse me of resorting to personal attacks and then use one yourself. It saps your credibility. Oh, wait, you don't have any anymore.
You little racist, you. I see you're afraid to answer the question on whether or not you're a racist, so I'll keep asking you again and again:
Are you a racist? If not, how do you reconcile your Zionism and fascism with your supposed lack of racist views?
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