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You think I am lying? Wait and see. As for the other facts, check them out.
I have checked them out and I know you're full of s**t. Wait and see on this "robot army"? Are you retarded? Your soldiers can't even beat the young men of Southern Lebanon who are defending their homes from your tanks. Yet you're already talking about robot armies, something the US military, with a budget exponentially larger than your own (although I suspect you are a Lebanese dissident living abroad), has yet to even begin working on seriously?
Your delusions encourage my assumption that Israel will not last much longer. Entities far more powerful and expansive than Israel have fallen in less time. Look at the Soviet Union.
22 Bay Area residents arrested for disrupting former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's
Olmert ordered Israel's brutal attacks on Gaza beginning in late December 2008, codenamed Operation Cast Lead. Last week, the UN Human Rights Council passed a resolution endorsing the Goldstone Report, an independent investigation into the Gaza operation, which found that Israel violated international law and possibly committed crimes against humanity.
"Israel is an apartheid state guilty of war crimes and its leaders should not be welcome in San Francisco," said Lisa Nessan, a Jewish resident of Oakland, who has traveled several times to Israel and Palestine, most recently in May. "For the past sixty years, under leadership like Olmert's, Israel has denied Palestinians their basic human rights, built settlements on their lands, and killed civilians – all to force them from their homeland.”
A lively protest also gathered across from the hotel in Union Square, where about 250 people carried signs bearing the names and pictures of children killed during Operation Cast Lead. Olmert is making several appearances in the US this month, and has been met with strong protests at locations including the University of Chicago and Tulane University in New Orleans. "We join with people around the world who believe that Israel and its leaders must be held accountable for their actions. Israel killed 1400 people during its attacks on Gaza last winter alone, and many more have died or suffered from the effects of siege, occupation, and apartheid on their daily lives," said Monadel Herzallah, a Palestinian activist who lives in Fairfield and whose 21 year old cousin was killed in Gaza in January.
Organizers also expressed outrage that President Obama has ignored the findings of the Goldstone Report. The US has pledged more than $3 billion each year in unrestricted aid to Israel. "Israel’s use of US aid and military equipment violates our own laws," said Rae Abileah, an organizer with CODEPINK whose father is Israeli. "Why are we giving aid to a country that is destroying people's homes and attacking civilians, while our own nation is struggling with unemployment and underfunded social services?"
Eduardo Cohen of San Francisco sums up the sentiment: "The war crimes in the Goldstone Report are not an exception, but a reminder that Israel's apartheid law is itself criminal. We must not only hold Olmert accountable, but all of Israel's leaders, our own elected officials, and other companies and individuals that profit from these crimes. Only then can true justice be reached."
The protest was sponsored by: Arab Resource & Organizing Center (AROC), Bay Area Campaign to End Israeli Apartheid (BACEIA), CODEPINK Women for Peace, Friends of Deiribzi'a, Northern California International Solidarity Movement, Middle East Children's Alliance (MECA), South Bay Mobilization, Stop AIPAC, CAL Students for Justice in Palestine, US Palestine Communities Network (USPCN), Bay Area Women in Black.
22 Bay Area residents arrested for disrupting former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's
Olmert ordered Israel's brutal attacks on Gaza beginning in late December 2008, codenamed Operation Cast Lead. Last week, the UN Human Rights Council passed a resolution endorsing the Goldstone Report, an independent investigation into the Gaza operation, which found that Israel violated international law and possibly committed crimes against humanity.
"Israel is an apartheid state guilty of war crimes and its leaders should not be welcome in San Francisco," said Lisa Nessan, a Jewish resident of Oakland, who has traveled several times to Israel and Palestine, most recently in May. "For the past sixty years, under leadership like Olmert's, Israel has denied Palestinians their basic human rights, built settlements on their lands, and killed civilians – all to force them from their homeland.”
A lively protest also gathered across from the hotel in Union Square, where about 250 people carried signs bearing the names and pictures of children killed during Operation Cast Lead. Olmert is making several appearances in the US this month, and has been met with strong protests at locations including the University of Chicago and Tulane University in New Orleans. "We join with people around the world who believe that Israel and its leaders must be held accountable for their actions. Israel killed 1400 people during its attacks on Gaza last winter alone, and many more have died or suffered from the effects of siege, occupation, and apartheid on their daily lives," said Monadel Herzallah, a Palestinian activist who lives in Fairfield and whose 21 year old cousin was killed in Gaza in January.
Organizers also expressed outrage that President Obama has ignored the findings of the Goldstone Report. The US has pledged more than $3 billion each year in unrestricted aid to Israel. "Israel’s use of US aid and military equipment violates our own laws," said Rae Abileah, an organizer with CODEPINK whose father is Israeli. "Why are we giving aid to a country that is destroying people's homes and attacking civilians, while our own nation is struggling with unemployment and underfunded social services?"
Eduardo Cohen of San Francisco sums up the sentiment: "The war crimes in the Goldstone Report are not an exception, but a reminder that Israel's apartheid law is itself criminal. We must not only hold Olmert accountable, but all of Israel's leaders, our own elected officials, and other companies and individuals that profit from these crimes. Only then can true justice be reached."
The protest was sponsored by: Arab Resource & Organizing Center (AROC), Bay Area Campaign to End Israeli Apartheid (BACEIA), CODEPINK Women for Peace, Friends of Deiribzi'a, Northern California International Solidarity Movement, Middle East Children's Alliance (MECA), South Bay Mobilization, Stop AIPAC, CAL Students for Justice in Palestine, US Palestine Communities Network (USPCN), Bay Area Women in Black.
Oh Jolly!! Another Rice to Deal with!! Israel 'must be serious on peace'
Israel must decide whether it is serious about peace or whether it will pay "only lip service" to the idea, Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the United Nations, has said.
Speaking at a conference in Jerusalem organised by Shimon Peres, Israel's president, Rice said the US was committed to Israel's security.
But as part of that, she said, the Israeli government should immediately relaunch negotiations, without preconditions, aimed at creating an independent Palestinian state.
Rice's speech, at a conference entitled "Facing Tomorrrow", was targeted at all sides in the stalled peace process, calling for an immediate resumption of talks to address all major issues.
"Our goal is clear: a comprehensive peace, including two states living side by side in peace and security, a Jewish state of Israel, with true security for all Israelis, and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967 and realises the potential of the Palestinian people," Rice said.
"We all must decide whether we are serious about peace or whether we will lend it only lip service." 'Vitriol'
In her speech Rice also urged an end to what she called "anti-Israel vitriol" at the United Nations, where the General Assembly is expected to debate the Goldstone report on war crimes carried out during Israel's war on Gaza earlier this year.
The report concluded that both Israel and the Palestinian territory's Hamas rulers, committed war crimes and possible crimes against humanity, although it is more critical of Israeli troops for "terrorising and targeting" civilians.
"Member states must once and for all replace anti-Israeli vitriol with recognition of Israel's legitimacy and right to exist in peace and security," Rice said, making no specific mention of the Goldstone report.
The US has previously criticised the report, calling it one-sided.
In a separate meeting with Rice, Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, hailed the US position on the Goldstone report, a statement from his office said.
"The prime minister thanked Rice for the Obama administration's vigorous opposition to the Goldstone report and its ongoing support (of Israel) at the United Nations," the statement said.
On Tuesday, during a meeting with Peres, the Israeli president reportedly told Rice the Goldstone report was an outrage.
According to reports in Israeli media he said the report, compiled by South African jurist Richard Goldstone, had turned the UN into a stage for anti-Israeli lies and baseless stories.
Security commitment
In her conference speech, Rice appeared to reach out to Israeli critics of the US administration's Middle East agenda, saying that Washington remained "fully and firmly committed to the peace and security" of Israel, and committed to fighting extremism.
"We will stand by our friends on the frontlines and we will uphold the inalienable right to self-defence," she said.
Since taking power in January, Barack Obama, the US president, has attempted to restart peace talks.
But his moves to reach out of the Muslim world have alarmed critics in Israel who fear he will depart the near-unconditional support for Israel shown by his predecessors.
The last round of peace talks broke down late last year with no breakthroughs on the main issues dividing the two sides: final borders, the status of disputed Jerusalem and a solution for Palestinians who lost their homes and other property in Israel after it achieved statehood in 1948.
The issue of Israeli settlement construction on Palestinian land remains another key issue.
Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, has demanded that Israel freeze all settlement construction on war-captured lands and agree to a clear agenda for peace talks before talks can resume.
But Netanyahu has said some settlement construction must continue to accommodate growth of existing settler populations.
This is another lie. Apparently you do not hesitate to parrot your Zionist propaganda and blatantly lie to try and prove your point. Tell me, Zionist, if these Palestinians were supposedly building a tunnel at the time of the Israeli attack, how is it that the fighting took place outside of this tunnel? Furthermore, how many times has Israeli propaganda already lied (and been caught)? Do you think your government's military (although I suspect you are a Lebanese dissident living abroad) has any credibility?
Evidence supporting Israel on what? What evidence could a Gazan give to the UN that would undermine Hamas? Hamas has already been accused of war crimes and is cooperating with the report. Are you at the point now where you're replying for the sake of replying? You are no longer giving me logical arguments.
Answer this: did Israel use white phosphorus on Gazans or not? I will show you evidence to back up my claims. You must now give me evidence to show me that your military did not bomb boys and girls with chemical weapons:
If you would like more evidence substantiating this "ridiculous assertion that does not warrant an answer," please let me know. I will be glad to supply it. The next time you want to deny your government's war crimes (although I suspect you are a Lebanese dissident living abroad), please supply some facts. That way you won't be made out to look like a racist, bloodthirsty lunatic.
I see that you are clearly rattled given that you are giving into personal attacks. Notice how you first decide to attack me before addressing assertions that you are a racist. I suspect that you are getting very worked up about these assertions, you little racist, you.
I am a second-generation American citizen. I have citizenship in no other country on this planet. I have no choice over who our politicians support, but I do speak out in favor of Israeli boycott, which I think more than offsets my unwilling contributions to Israel via my tax dollars.
You're accusing me of antisemitism now? I see that you're clearly frustrated. I could care less about Jewish achievement. I just want them to stop killing Palestinians. Is that too much to ask for, you little racist, you?
I will ask you again, ius, since you seem to be dodging this question:
Are you a racist or not? If not, how do you reconcile your Zionist, fascist views with this alleged lack of racist motivations?
Zionism is racism. I will give you some examples from INSIDE Israel:
Note, this resolution was repealed in the 90s following the Oslo agreement as a reward to Israel for finally entering negotiations with the Palestinians. Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli signatory to Oslo was later assassinated by a Zionist, Jewish extremist. This is not to say that Oslo or Rabin were good, but it just shows you the extent to how racist Israeli society is.
If you want some more sources, please let me know. I will be glad to supply you with them, you little racist, you.
This is funny because your government (although I suspect you are a Lebanese dissident living abroad) constantly exploits the holocaust and has justified its existence based on victimization suffered in Europe. So, by definition, you do not agree with the establishment of Israel on the basis of victimization? Let me guess, you agree only with the legitimacy of Israel on racist grounds, right? You just fell for a trap, dumbass. Try to look harder next time.
The Palestinians had nothing to do with the holocaust. Can you please tell me, in depth or concisely, how Palestinians are to blame for their own displacement and occupation? I cannot wait for you to post your rationale so I can pick it apart and embarrass you even further. Apparently you are immune to being humiliated on a message board, which leads us to our next bit of wisdom below:
Exactly, now you understand why Palestinians fight your occupation, which seeks to strip those same Palestinians of the land and livelihood required to give their children the best lives they can and become technologically advanced. Indeed, the fight against humiliation is the driving force behind the Palestinian national spirit. Congrats, you've tripped over yourself again in trying to establish some sort of Israeli monopoly on pride or something.
Yes, also, after the war, Hizballah is far more strong than it was before it, and Israel will now think twice of launching a campaign into Lebanon again. Also consider the fact that it has been humiliated time and time again in hostage exchanges and is giving up Ghajar. You ignore all of this however.
The avenging of Mughniyeh will take time. You have to remember, Hizballah does not have the support of a superpower so it's going to take a little longer.
Just wanted to add, because I know this stings for you:
So much for your "democracy," Zionist!
The Hamas fighters were guarding the entrance to the tunnel. This is so basic that I wonder why I have to explain this to you.
Hamas threatened people not to tell how their houses were rigged with dynamite and how Hamas had men in their houses and dug tunnels under them, thus legitimizing Israeli attacks on those houses.
As for the rest of your silly rant, it is clear that since you believe Zionism is racism that you are a racist yourself. You would deny the Jews the right for self determination and a state of their own. The Palestinians and Arabs did not accept the UN partition resolution of 47. Furthermore, they did not create a state in Gaza and the West Bank between 48 and 67 when Israel was not there. After 67 they refused to negotiate peace. That is why the Palestinians are responsible for their displacement. They had many chances to live in peace with the Jews and they chose not to.
I am happy to hear that you are a second generation American. That means your family has been supporting Israel through their taxes for at least two generations. What an irony. Why do you live in the country that is Israel's biggest ally? Do you not feel humiliated?
The Hamas fighters were guarding the entrance to the tunnel. This is so basic that I wonder why I have to explain this to you.
Hamas threatened people not to tell how their houses were rigged with dynamite and how Hamas had men in their houses and dug tunnels under them, thus legitimizing Israeli attacks on those houses.
As for the rest of your silly rant, it is clear that since you believe Zionism is racism that you are a racist yourself. You would deny the Jews the right for self determination and a state of their own. The Palestinians and Arabs did not accept the UN partition resolution of 47. Furthermore, they did not create a state in Gaza and the West Bank between 48 and 67 when Israel was not there. After 67 they refused to negotiate peace. That is why the Palestinians are responsible for their displacement. They had many chances to live in peace with the Jews and they chose not to.
I am happy to hear that you are a second generation American. That means your family has been supporting Israel through their taxes for at least two generations. What an irony. Why do you live in the country that is Israel's biggest ally? Do you not feel humiliated?
Israel bombs the people, You say HAMAS are killing the people? You see Israel bombs innocents, HAMAS fighters go down in huge numbers to save the people (Human Shields as you morons Say) While Fully Knowing that Israel can strike again at anytime and kill all the HAMAS fighters in one go and they've done so Many many times.. They bomb a location, people go to see then they bomb the same spot again killing more people.. If HAMAS fighters never wanted to get hurt they should have just left the torn bodies of civilians in the streets.
THE REALITY ON THE GROUND CONTRADICTS ALL THAT YOU SAY ZIONIST PUPPET.
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