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Now can someone tell me how many peopel actually voted and by how much did Ahmadi Najad win and by how much they are accusing him of cheating? I haven't been following up Iran's news.

the numbers will vary depending on which source you check...
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The sad part is when the cat tries to free the bird from the cage; its intention is beyond freeing it. Its intention is to eat it. That’s why the captive bird must not be that naïve.
I have no doubt in what you're saying, but the issue remains that people are opressed. We know this more than anyone... What to do in such a case!

We pleaded with the Americans for 15 years to rid us of the Syrians and when they did, it was much worse. But the question remains, what do you do in this case?
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the numbers will vary depending on which source you check...
i heard he got 62% which is only 1% more thn he got in 2005.
i also read tht the washington post did a phone questionare in iran before the elections and nijad got the overwhelming majority, then some people say he cheated............ur right who do we believe?
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i heard he got 62% which is only 1% more thn he got in 2005.
i also read tht the washington post did a phone questionare in iran before the elections and nijad got the overwhelming majority, then some people say he cheated............ur right who do we believe?
Cheating happens, but he would win Anyways Anytime Anyday in Iran. Although we critisize some of his policies Nijad still has Majoraty.
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Cheating happens, but he would win Anyways Anytime Anyday in Iran. Although we critisize some of his policies Nijad still has Majoraty.

u know...i get the impression that this iranian revolution is the fakest and shallowest of all...since the very day of the elections Mousawi declared himself victorious, then they claimed Ahmadinajad had only gathered 12% of votes...then within a few hours we had hundreds of angry protestors burning everything they found...how's this possible? how could he declare himself victorious without even counting the votes???? who the hell on earth would believe that najad got 12% of votes????? why didn't they calm down after the council announced a recount of the votes???? y did they decide not to attend the recount????

the footage taken by reporters b4 they were all kicked out doesn't show any brutal attacks by the police forces...i mean, just regular fights, stone throwing by the demonstrators followed by police charges using batons and not much more...some deaths happened, but there are videos on the net about supposed attacks against progov members with casualties too...i mean, the reaction by protestors seems out of place, too violent...from the very beginning they clashed, burnt and shouted death to Khamenei and Najad...is this allowed?

something smells fishy here...the huge western coverage, specially the BBC...we all know that the BBC is not precisely a reliable source...then u get that poor girl dead and her pix everywhere. It's crazy how her death is being aired day and night...but who killed her? who would shoot at a girl? how come they recorded her death and nothing else?...i'm afraid this issue is not what it seems....even if it was gov forces, which i doubt, aren't we fed up of seeing people and kids dying in Palestine???? why is Obama so worried about Iran??? Yesterday 100 iraqis died in a bombing, and the day before the US killed 50 people in a raid on a village in Afghanistan...i still saw no pix about them...y is the world so fuked up????

from the beginning this whole thing seemed what it really is...a clear move prepared and orchestrated before the elections by western agents to destabilise Iran...using the young liberal Teherani youth they are trying to bring the regime down...i've seen iranian flags in the US with a lion instead of the word God...who are those people? what do they want?

everyday that passes i am more convinced that these people protesting are anything but clean. At least the organisers should be prosecuted...the way i see it...
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Since things calmed down now, we can speak objectively,

Shah collaterals, MKO and others anti-IRI proxies and governments, had some slight links to what happened on the streets of Teheran/Shiraz/etc., none the less, it has been proven that the demonstrators (the majority of them) were not against the Islamic republic as a system.

Najjad would love to think that all the demonstrators were manipulated and organized by anti-IRI groups, but that's not the case at all, I think that 2 millions people on the streets can't at all be just some 'traitors'. These people had some valid demands, and they simply wanted the Islamic Republic to remain a Republic.

Iranian women do also deserve their rights to be acknowledged, I don't think the system should force women to wear veils if they really didn't want to, let them have more freedom, you are not good or bad Muslim just on appearances.

A commission should be assembled to investigate the events of the last 2 weeks.

Those who destroyed public properties and caused havoc and anarchy should be punished.
Those from the Basiji who used excess violence and killed innocent demonstrators should also be severely punished. Noone has the right to kill innocent demonstrators, under no condition.
A study should be conducted and the Iranian youth demands should be taken into consideration, they represent the spirit of Iran, and the driving force of the Islamic republic.

Finally, may Allah accept the innocent martyrs who have fallen on the streets of Iran, and may these events be a wake up call to the Republic, Islam in general and Shia Islam is built on tolerance and acceptance of the other (This doesn't include the murderous Zionist state) and this shouldn't change under any condition; violence and repression against your own people do not lead to good outcomes.
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I have no doubt in what you're saying, but the issue remains that people are opressed. We know this more than anyone... What to do in such a case!

We pleaded with the Americans for 15 years to rid us of the Syrians and when they did, it was much worse. But the question remains, what do you do in this case?
They brought them in - They kicked them out – They are bringing back again…
The simple answerer is to be smart enough by keeping ALL outsiders OUT!
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Iran the Iranian Way,



Iraq the American way.
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Iran the Iranian Way,



Iraq the American way.
Top picture was not taken in Iran or else women would've had head covers at very least.

I bet it should be named "Iran American way" or "Iran Western way" at very least.
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Top picture was not taken in Iran or else women would've had head covers at very least.




I bet it should be named "Iran American way" or "Iran Western way" at very least.
Inta el Sadiq, its called Mossad/American/Saudi way.
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