Iranian elections and what you think about it.

[Ignatius]

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

You are right on one point - that it really won't make any big difference no matter who actually wins, massavi or achmedinajad. But Ahmedinajad is a NUTCASE, I think anyone would be better then him. The man denies the Holocouast and he actually thinks there are no gays in Iran. No matter how much one might disagree with Israel, you can't deny the Holocoust took place.

Holocaust and gay existence : are these major issues in iranian politics ?

[Salome]

I wonder if by forbidding the media coverage the R. Guard is working for US now?? They try to silence reporters but it would proove counterproductive, people will find the ways to send the reports and pictures out, no death will remain uncovered!!

Originally Posted by Zayn

Where is Mao when you need him?

In the best place, with the dead!

Originally Posted by LebArmenian

IS THAT THE WILAYET AL FAQIH that they tried to frighten the christians with ? they have hot girls and all of the youngsters wear fashion clothings and waxed hairs ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???/ **** ! we are stupid stupid stupid !!! i want faqih !

you mean the other camp rather where women wear black chador:D dont be fooled by the "thugs" who wear D&G:D they are all US agents

[Ana3arabi!]

Originally Posted by Ignatius

If he knows it why would he ask for another election

Because he is just bluffing, and he knows the Iranian authorities will not accept to do re-elections (in no country would this be possible, not just in Iran, even in the U.S. -- in the very best case, the votes in polling stations where there were proven voting irregularities might be cancelled)... no country has ever repeated elections, especially not based on unproven arguments of fraud that are claimed to be "obvious" but nowhere to be seen!!!! Moussavi seems to be referring to the results when he refers to "obviousness" of fraud. That is just ridiculous, to claim fraud based on results..

if he lost the fiorst one without fraud then there's no way he wons the second one without fraud given the difference (65% vs 30% ?) unless he's planning to fraud.

See above. Also, even if he wasn't bluffing, there are powerful figures high up that may help him, and they were funding his campaign actually. Like Rafsanjani, the head of the Expediency Council.... it appears that the whole Roxana Saberi spy case was related to that Council and it may have been Rafsanjani that pressured for her release despite proofs of spying (access to top-secret documents). Was Rafsanjani caught red-handed and is that why Ahmadinejad looked into his records & got evidence of his corruption (which was known in Iran )? It is more complicated than it seems.

Is Moussavi a CIA agent ?

I do not know if he is , but for sure he is doing great service to CIA & Mossad, and to Iran's enemies in general. And for that , he must be punished severely.

Regarding fraud : in Lebanon there were fraud and there's no video of it.

Yes there is. Video in Ashrafieh about voting fraud & irregularities, and also audio recording of threats and bribing worth $200,000.

[Ana3arabi!]

Originally Posted by Kibitzer

Can you explain why it is a "coup d'etat" by Americans to keep Twitter working??? Is it a "coup d'etat" to have communications for people??

I don't understand.

Because twitter is being used to incite certain elements and as a tool for organizing further riots. Not closing off twitter to Iranian IPs (as some american websites & services are closed to Iranian IPs by america) would not be interference, but taking specific action to ensure that twitter would not do scheduled maintenance work in order to allow the masterminds of the riots to keep on organizing riots, is direct intervention in the course of events on the ground in Iran, and therefore an attempt at coup d'etat especially in absence of ANY proof whatsoever about electoral fraud. Anyway, I find it ridiculous that claims are being made that the internet is being filtered in Iran and yet, all those people can post not only on twitter, but also supposedly use 1) email; 2) upload huge videos on BBC, CNN, etc. ? what a ridiculous claim, one that has been bought by western audiences (which only proves how easy it is to mislead masses). Also, it's a somewhat dubious claim that Iran has blocked access to twitter and YET all these Iranians are posting so many messages by the minute... of course, we all know that internet anonimity means that someone sitting on a beach on the Caribbean might be having fun spreading these wild rumors and making it look like it's from Iran (notice how there are no equivalent feeds in Farsi?? why is that? do all those taking part in these riots speak English with each other, or Farsi??? I am not sure that even half of them would know proper English, so WHO are these feeds directed at? Any chance they are directed at western audiences in order to give a distorted picture of the situation on the ground? ). Also , Iran is a nation of 70 million. How many percent of the entire population use the internet, let alone use it regularly? Moreover, if phones are working (and they are) and only SMS is blocked, and supposedly the authorities are about to lose control of the entire country (supposedly! supposedly the only force that now has to be tackled is Basij !!!) , then how come phones are not being used to organize these rallies and instead the reliance is allegedly on twitter? one would think that if the authorities have nearly lost control, they would have little time to listen in to phone conversations........ can't you get it , that it just DOESN'T ADD UP? Just WHO is twittering those fake rumors, and WHO is posting those videos? do you know how much longer time it takes to visit a website using anonymous proxy, compared to using it without proxy? and here we're not even talking about uploading hundreds of megabytes worth of videos, but merely loading websites... now tell me how all these videos are being updated, if not for direct american involvement ? maybe u would not find anything wrong if North Korea and Iran did the same in america if there were riots of the sort we are seeing in (northern) Tehran. NOT.

[Aoun4lebanon]

why do I have the feeling the same happened in our Lebanese election? newsweek said it was 750m


CIA has Distributed 400 Million Dollars Inside Iran to Evoke a Revolution.


Mon, 15 Jun 2009 1824 GMT

Former Pakistani Army General Mirza Aslam Beig claims the US
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has distributed 400 million
dollars inside Iran to evoke a revolution.
In a phone interview with the Pashto Radio on Monday, General
Beig said that there is undisputed intelligence proving the US
interference in Iran.
"The documents prove that the CIA spent 400 million dollars
inside Iran to prop up a colorful-hollow revolution following
the election," he added.
Pakistan's former army chief of joint staff went on to say
that the US wanted to disturb the situation in Iran and bring
to power a pro-US government.
He congratulated President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on his re-
election for the second term in office, noting that Pakistan
relationship with Iran has improved during his 4-year
presidency.
"Ahmadinejad's re-election is a decisive point in regional
policy and if Pakistan and Afghanistan unite with Iran, the US
has to leave the area, especially the occupied Afghanistan,"
Beig added.

Press TV

[Learned]

Originally Posted by Zayn

Which makes this mostly an internal Iranian affair between the bourgeois and the proletariat.

Do you really believe this sentence? Who are the bourgeoisie and who are the proletariat?

[LubnanALkawi]

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

"No to Gaza! No to Liban! YES TO IRAN!"


I think these guys are learning a couple things from the Lebanese, expect their new slogan to be "IRAN FIRST"

this is not a new slogan... Iranian people have been saying that for many years but of course not publicly like now.. few years ago they would be hanged in town square if they did so but well time is changing now


ill say thank you for those people from Lebanon

Originally Posted by TmeniAzar

Well then they voted for the wrong guy :) Mousawi is not much different from Najad when it comes to the issues you mentioned.
I think the west is putting Mousawi in the position they wish him to be in and not where he really is.
Khatami the poster guy of Isla7i's was one of the strongest supporters of HA and Hamas and against all the things you mentioned above

lets take it this way the people on the streets are using Mousawi and he is using them and probably many never even voted for him but they are out on the streets as they have the opportunity to let their voice be heard!

[Ashrafieh_LF]

This is gathering momentum! I think Ahmdinejad will fall in the next coming weeks. This will be the end of Khomeini's Islamic revolution and will make Iran a more secular modern state. Hopefully there won't be a lot of bloodshed.
This will be another blow to HA after Syria abandoned them and the loss in the elections...

[freak]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

This is gathering momentum! I think Ahmdinejad will fall in the next coming weeks. This will be the end of Khomeini's Islamic revolution and will make Iran a more secular modern state. Hopefully there won't be a lot of bloodshed.
This will be another blow to HA after Syria abandoned them and the loss in the elections...

I havent posted here in months . but i HAD to log in after reading this

LOLOL
Irans supreme leader is to speak on Friday , and all this will end.
EDIT : no offense intended but your comment made me laugh for real

[ValentinoNO1]

Originally Posted by LebArmenian

IS THAT THE WILAYET AL FAQIH that they tried to frighten the christians with ? they have hot girls and all of the youngsters wear fashion clothings and waxed hairs ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???/ **** ! we are stupid stupid stupid !!! i want faqih !

You know what was intresting, That bloke on the roof top pumping the crowd with AK rounds. Probably on the orders of the real government.
We know who they are.
Any good nite spots in iran where i could grab a drink ?

Maybe in an underground bunker somwhere in the country side. But il be sure to wear my kevlar vest. So when the religious police come with there batons and guns and sticks il be protected:)