how accurate is the number 6,000,000?

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by kappa273

apparently, the entire world is not convinced but the problem is that a policy of fear and a dictatorship style is being applied to anyone who questions the legitimacy of those assertions..

Stalin did the same thing and no one tried to question his regime.. Tianaminn Square in China also reminds me of that style...

let me give u a better answer to your theory..

for many years, people believed that beta-blockers should be contradicted in people with heart failure...

however, it was eventually found that they actually help and reduce mortality..

was it simply a misconception? or someone hated those beta-blockers and tried to keep them away from the market?

changing facts is something we see daily in business as well as politics...

I never heard world not being convinced Holocaust is reality. I heard some are trying to claim that its a myth but I suspect those guys are just agenda pushers and nothing more.
But you are right, once people believed that Earth is flat and it rests on three wales.
Like I said few times before, burden is on you to raise my doubts.

Originally Posted by kappa273

for example, the Jews claim to have been in the land now known as israel for the last 5600 years.. well apparently, no one found any archaelogical relics dated back to the period before Babylon exile...
misconceptions or lies?

Thit is incorrect statement on few levels.
While Judaism itself is 5600+ years old, Israel is only 3500 years old.
Archeological evidence exists actually.
And why Palestinians are so against Israeli government doing archeological digs even in vicinity of Temple Mount not to mention Temple Mount itself?
Looks like those guys know what to be afraid of.

Originally Posted by kappa273

u don't remember what you wrote or what?

Well, I am lost. Now you are going to have to explain to me why it means I called you an anti-Semite if I said the following (emphases are yours):

"You just proved to yourself and to the rest of us that you are not interested in facts but rather doing it out of hate.
I am totally cool with that but I'd appreciate next time you do not try to pile on mounts of BS but rather give it to me straight."

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by Frisbeetarian

Please next time try to construct sentences that can be comprehended. Maybe then i can take the argument u present seriously.

Then read it one more time or let me know, which part is confusing to you.

Originally Posted by Frisbeetarian

Really? And whats research if i cant speak my mind towards what i concluded?

You keep making lame excuses.
Here is the hint.
Do your research and once finished post it incognito.

[dodzi]

PINI, you're not Israeli, are you Jewish? Where does your interest in Israel come from... I mean seeeeriously!

[Frisbeetarian]

Then read it one more time or let me know, which part is confusing to you.

If Europe, North America and Australia do not constitute entire world then those few gentlemen you keep listing and quoting and crying about even less so.

You keep making lame excuses.
Here is the hint.
Do your research and once finished post it incognito.

Their have been many books that questioned the Holocaust but were refused publication. Their were books that slipped by but then were revoked. Do me a favor, search for "Stern, Hitler Diaries", on the net, if u find nothing, then i would have made my point.

Be somewhat logical about this and think. If they are going to sentence Negationists and Revisionists to jail for speaking their minds, why wouldn't they suppress the publication of serious academic articles or books that beg to differ and question the Holocaust.

Archeological evidence exists actually.

Source please.

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by dodzi

PINI, you're not Israeli, are you Jewish? Where does your interest in Israel come from... I mean seeeeriously!

I have many relatives and friends living in Israel and I love and respect the country simply for what it was able to achieve despite tremendous adversity.

Oh, yes, I am Jewish or so I hope.

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

OK, I see. My apologies. Let me try it again:

"If Europe, North America and Australia do not constitute entire world then those few gentlemen, you keep listing and quoting and crying about, even less so."

or

"If Europe, North America and Australia do not constitute entire world then those few gentlemen even less so."

Again, sorry for the confusion.

Originally Posted by Frisbeetarian

Their have been many books that questioned the Holocaust but were refused publication. Their were books that slipped by but then were revoked. Do me a favor, search for "Stern, Hitler Diaries", on the net, if u find nothing, then i would have made my point.

Be somewhat logical about this and think. If they are going to sentence Negationists and Revisionists to jail for speaking their minds, why wouldn't they suppress the publication of serious academic articles or books that beg to differ and question the Holocaust.

As you suggested I Googled "Stern, Hitler Diaries":

"Stern, Hitler Diaries" - Google Search

and this is the first thing, which pops up:

The Hitler Diaries, a notorious case of forgery - Crime Library on truTV.com

Originally Posted by Frisbeetarian

Source please.

Let's not get sidetracked. I am in no mood for discussing archeology.

[Xguy]

Pro Israeli spare us your plitical correctness, you can't question nor deny the holocaust anyware in the world without being chased by the zionist attack dogs period,
David Cole, A young Jewish holocaust denier, posing as a believer, puts some hard questions to the senior curator of the Auschwitz State Museum. After making a video, which exposed many lies and the reconstruction done to ausschwitz bomb shelter under the excuse of restoration to original specs, a "hit" was put out on Cole, and a reward for information on his whereabouts was issued by Irv Rubin (who years later, was arrested by the FBI for planning to kill a Lebanese-American Congressman.) Fearing assassination, Cole went into hiding. He never surfaced again publicly.
I saw the video and the highlight of the video that struck me, is when he asked the care taker of the Auschwitz compund about those holes in the ceiling (where supposetly the gas cans were dropped) why they were constructed recently, he replied they were constructed to restore them to original condition, wait a minute so everyone that visits Auschwitz is actually looking at a reconstruction of gas chambers? might as well be a uneversal studio tour, lol
And listen this is just a taste, there are a plethora of information about the shrunken heads and the lamp shades in Bushenwad that were retracted later, the billy wilder movie , Ahhm sorry documentary where he accidently steps into the camrea while posing a couple of skinny jews, yea yea and people jews and none jews dying from lice, etc etc etc
Many people died in the war jews and none jews , no one was gased , all this voodo stuff about the nazi is comical yea right the most highly technological race on earth where into voodoo and shrunken heads, if you wanna make something up at least make it beleivable.
No one denies that jews were rounded up in camps, and yes they were used as free labor to manufacter weapons and amunition, sure it makes sense since they declared war on him to start with, no one denies that many died from hungre and desease, if he wanted to kills them why did he shave there hair to save them from dying from lice then? it does not make sense all these cans of pestecise were used to save them not gas them ,
and the biggest evidence against the holocaust is the fact that you keep trying to illegalise it's denial, why is that ? you can deny God but you can't deny the holocaust ? this is rediculous and the other big eveidence against it is the fact that you keep reminding people of it.
ah whatever it's a long story and even a longer string of lies it will take me days to argu this with you, so yea whatever the holocaust is real dude, so keep crying about it.

[zoomzoom]

Whenever the zionist entity is being exposed for its bad treatments and its killing of innocent Palestinians, the Holocaust denial issue comes up. Whether 1,000,000 or 6,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis what good does it do to us to deny the fact that the Holocaust took place? It does not. This issue is being milked and exploited by the zionists to deflect the zionist bad image that was exposed worldwide during the Gaza war. At a time when Israel is being exposed and the world can see its genocide in Gaza, the Holocasut denial issue comes up. It is not a coincident, it is a deliberate exposure to milk the issue at a time when Israel was called the new Nazis of the world.

[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by zoomzoom

Whenever the zionist entity is being exposed for its bad treatments and its killing of innocent Palestinians, the Holocaust denial issue comes up. Whether 1,000,000 or 6,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis what good does it do to us to deny the fact that the Holocaust took place? It does not. This issue is being milked and exploited by the zionists to deflect the zionist bad image that was exposed worldwide during the Gaza war. At a time when Israel is being exposed and the world can see its genocide in Gaza, the Holocasut denial issue comes up. It is not a coincident, it is a deliberate exposure to milk the issue at a time when Israel was called the new Nazis of the world.

Still over the top but this is more realistic than the rest.

[kappa273]

Originally Posted by PINI

Thit is incorrect statement on few levels.
While Judaism itself is 5600+ years old, Israel is only 3500 years old.
Archeological evidence exists actually.
And why Palestinians are so against Israeli government doing archeological digs even in vicinity of Temple Mount not to mention Temple Mount itself?
Looks like those guys know what to be afraid of.

actually, i don't agree with u...

i may not be an archaelogy expert, but from my readings, there has not been any jewish archeological artifacts dating back to before 550BC in the land now known as Israel...

the claims to have found evidence pointing to the first temple were actually found away from the temple mount at a garbage site...

and in a land where a lot of archaelogical excavations and searches have been performed, don't u find it a little surprising that there were no ruins dating back to before 550BC?

i know this is out of topic... but it is also as interesting to discuss..

kappa