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Having global ethics wouldn't guarantee that we eliminate criminals, but we could widespread more an ethical behaviour.
inno don't lie don't kill, everybody knows these already, what do you want when you say global ethics? Do you mean ethics in business or politics?

And don't forget that our wonderful Lebanese bacc has a "tarbiya" exam that's useless..
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Under the "global ethics" will it be ethical to drink alcohol?
Will female circumcision be ethical?
Will honor killing be ethical?
Will trying to convert another person to your religion be ethical?

Therefore, "global ethics" and cultural diversity are not compatible. You cannot have both. Therefore, global ethics is not possible.
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Under the "global ethics" will it be ethical to drink alcohol?
Will female circumcision be ethical?
Will honor killing be ethical?
Will trying to convert another person to your religion be ethical?

Therefore, "global ethics" and cultural diversity are not compatible. You cannot have both. Therefore, global ethics is not possible.
What you say above is no more than tribal mentality, not connected to specific cultures in general but to certain tribes...yes of course these are not ethical.

And about alcohol, what is nice in a liberal world, that you have the freedom to drink or not to drink alcohol...that should be the goal to aspire for tolerant, open minded societies.


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inno don't lie don't kill, everybody knows these already, what do you want when you say global ethics? Do you mean ethics in business or politics?

And don't forget that our wonderful Lebanese bacc has a "tarbiya" exam that's useless..
Ethics are not taught directly in most of the education systems, that was my idea basically...and with time the new, more tolerant generations could build a better world.
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And about alcohol, what is nice in a liberal world, that you have the freedom to drink or not to drink alcohol...that should be the goal to aspire for tolerant, open minded societies.


Which means that according to you, Sharia law cannot be ethical.
In essence, you have a view of ethics that YOU think should be the global one. In reality, that is a tribal a view as any.

Democracy and liberalism has nothing to do with ethics. Neither does the law. In New Hampshire you don't have to put on safety belts because the people there believe it is not the state's function to decide on that. In New York seat belts are mandatory.

In the Netherlands assisted suicide is legal. Americans find it ethically appalling. Adultery is not against the law in Europe or the USA though it is frowned upon. In parts of the Arab world it is against the law. So, is it ethical to have laws against adultery?

All I can say is that these examples prove that global ethics are impossible. Different cultures will have different ethics and there is no absolute way to judge which is better. People are different and this influences their ethical views. I accept the differences without wanting to force some "global ethics" on anybody.
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Under the "global ethics" will it be ethical to drink alcohol?
Will female circumcision be ethical?
Will honor killing be ethical?
Will trying to convert another person to your religion be ethical?

Therefore, "global ethics" and cultural diversity are not compatible. You cannot have both. Therefore, global ethics is not possible.
Why don't you post the ethics of occupation, land theft, and incinerating children with white phosphorus, [].
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Why don't you post the ethics of occupation, land theft, and incinerating children with white phosphorus, [].
Why don't you start a thread on these issues and I will post?
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Why don't you start a thread on these issues and I will post?
I just asked you to talk about the ethical nature of occupation and burning children alive with white phosphorus. Why don't you stop dodging the question?
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Under the "global ethics" will it be ethical to drink alcohol?
Will female circumcision be ethical?
Will honor killing be ethical?
Will trying to convert another person to your religion be ethical?
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[], female circumsision was/is practiced by ignorant [], it is equated to murder in the Qur'an.

Second, honour killings were tribal practices that are guaranteed to buy you a direct ticket to hell.

Third, "There is no compulsion in religion" is known to all educated people who have a clue what they're talking about.

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Therefore, "global ethics" and cultural diversity are not compatible. You cannot have both. Therefore, global ethics is not possible.
Global ethics aren't possible with treacherous murderous hypocrites with no ethics like the Israelis still roaming planet earth.

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I just asked you to talk about the ethical nature of occupation and burning children alive with white phosphorus. Why don't you stop dodging the question?
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I just asked you to talk about the ethical nature of occupation and burning children alive with white phosphorus. Why don't you stop dodging the question?
Because, it is not the subject of the thread. I am not evading anything. Open a new thread on that topic and let's discuss.
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Because, it is not the subject of the thread. I am not evading anything. Open a new thread on that topic and let's discuss.
Perhaps you should go back to school for some reading comprehension.

This is a thread about ethics. I asked you about the ethics involved with occupation, stealing land, and burning children alive with white phosphorus.

Answer the question.
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