Do you support a regime change in Syria?

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Anny

Do you seriously think that will happen, people are only followers of their leader. Thats what they did in Egypt, in Saudi arabia and most of the arab countries who now have a peace deal with Israel in the back of Palestinians and against muslims like them.

I didnt say this will happen now, not as long we have regimes such as that of Syria and Egypt.

Plus let me add something to this logic, when Sunnies will be promissed a land for themselves like all Syria and All Lebanon, they will jump at the opportunity for it on the back of the Shiaas and the christians, dont worry !

Promised? By whom? You are making it seem like as if the Muslims of Syria are waiting for another belford promise.

Let me make things clear, I'm not a member of Hizb el Ta7reer or anything, I'm just stating my opinion. I believe that countries like Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Morocco, Palestine, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the rest of the countries in which the Muslims form an overwhelming majority should build an Islamic state and implement the Sharia law. Similar to the situation in Iran.

It may be unfair or discriminative for certain religious minorities, as some members have here stated, however apart from not participating in the country's' general policies, I personally believe they will be just fine.

Mind you I didn't even mention Lebanon in our entire discussion, so don't put words in my mouth.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by 3asheq Beirut

Who do you think gave funding, support, and technical assistance to the Muslim Brotherhood during their terror campaign in the late 70's and early 80's in Syria?

Maybe during that time a change was in favor of the west. A lot have changed since then.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by Saladin

No Muslims in Europe must fully abide by the state laws there. And I'm not talking about europe what concerns me is the middle east and the Arabic/Islamic world.

ok well Europe concerns me, and those radical element I was talking about they do not abide by the western state's law, they want sharia, and they impose their own rules within their communities...

you say opening jihad for all muslims in the world? well it is happening already, and the "war" is fought not with sword, for now they are winning

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Salome

ok well Europe concerns me, and those radical element I was talking about they do not abide by the western state's law, they want sharia, and they impose their own rules within their communities...

you say opening jihad for all muslims in the world? well it is happening already, and the "war" is fought not with sword, for now they are winning

I'm not much familiar with the conditions or situations of the Muslims in the west, however religiously speaking, Muslims in foreign countries should abide by the laws imposed there and fully respect them. They have no right whatsoever to implement sharia law there.

I didn't quite understand what you meant or referred to by "war" and Muslims winning it. Maybe I wasn't clear, I said the door of Jihad must be open for all Muslims to fight for the Palestinian cause.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by Saladin

I'm not much familiar with the conditions or situations of the Muslims in the west, however religiously speaking, Muslims in foreign countries should abide by the laws imposed there and fully respect them. They have no right whatsoever to implement sharia law there.

I didn't quite understand what you meant or referred to by "war" and Muslims winning it. Maybe I wasn't clear, I said the door of Jihad must be open for all Muslims to fight for the Palestinian cause.

aha, I thought you mean jihad for spreading islam.

We discuss it in another thread, but as for Palestine I do not believe there is a real arab unity behind it above words.
The arab countries are reluctant to act united and fight Israel with weapons. I also dont see how a regime change would take place in Jordan or Egypt.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Salome

aha, I thought you mean jihad for spreading islam.

We discuss it in another thread, but as for Palestine I do not believe there is a real arab unity behind it above words.
The arab countries are reluctant to act united and fight Israel with weapons. I also dont see how a regime change would take place in Jordan or Egypt.

Yes I didnt say a change will happen, I fail to see a near change in Jordan, Egypt and Syria as well. And it's true what you've said about Arab countries being reluctant to help or engage war. This is exactly why I long for Islamic regimes, I believe this is our only savior from the constant struggles and crisis we are going through.

PS: Jihad, the violent and the non-violent form, has nothing to do with spreading Islam.

[Salome]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Yes I didnt say a change will happen, I fail to see a near change in Jordan, Egypt and Syria as well. And it's true what you've said about Arab countries being reluctant to help or engage war. This is exactly why I long for Islamic regimes, I believe this is our only savior from the constant struggles and crisis we are going through.

What do you mean by islamic regimes, Iran or KSA are not? They dont seem like waging war on Israel to save the Palestinians.

PS: Jihad, the violent and the non-violent form, has nothing to do with spreading Islam.

how come?

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Salome

What do you mean by islamic regimes, Iran or KSA are not? They dont seem like waging war on Israel to save the Palestinians.

I dont want to talk about Iran, not saying its not Islamic or anything however the fakih state isnt exactly what Im preaching for. As for KSA, yes you are right but unfortunately they aren't implementing the Sharia fully, I mean its being strictly implemented internally on peoples daily lives however not on the countrys external or regional policies. Note that the responsibility of engaging launching war or "Opening the door of Jihad" lies on the countries bordering israel.

There is no regime in the world today that is implementing the sharia as it should be.

how come?

Well this isnt the place for defining Jihad, but ill do it anyway. Jihad in Islam is something unique, established to defend the divine message from being eliminated or hindered by its enemies. The violent form of Jihad should only be taken in defensive situations without using any form of aggression, which is the case with Israel. As for the non-violent form of Jihad, which is the greater form as described by the Prophet(PBUH), it involves all actions done by Muslims that would improve the well being of their lives and society such as praying, going to work or school, taking care of the old, raising children, teaching them manners etc.. It has nothing to do whatsoever with spreading Islam.

[Zayn]

Islamism has its flaws just as capitalism, socialism, and communism have their flaws. At the end of the day, it should be the will of the people who decide what system they want. I support the deposition of all Arab rulers and, most importantly, the shrugging off of Western imperialism.

Keep in mind: The West is not a beacon of freedom and democracy. It is a beacon of capitalism.

[SamerTayyar]

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