Do you support a regime change in Syria?

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Souss

It's your right to support such a form of government. However, it would be false for you to claim that it is not discriminatory, again because a country where 10% of the population doesn't have the same rights as the other 90% cannot be called tolerant.

Then I guess the regime won't be moderate.

[zoomzoom]

If you are a Christian, and unfortunately I have to identify myself as an Arab Christian, it would be a disasterous situation to encourage or think about changing the regime in Syria. You have almost 2 million Christians in Syria, a regime change would almost guarantee a mass imigration of Chriatians in Syria.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by 3asheq Beirut

Saladin,

This is your interpretation of Islam and not a rule set in stone. Other Muslims in Syria don't share your view; are you going to impose it on them also? At one point the Church believed that having a Christian state was part of the Christian religion, but this thought was eventually defeated in Europe precisely because it led to oppression and suppression of the population. The bottom line is that unless your view of your nation is one where all citizens are equal in rights and duties under the law, then you are by definition discriminating. A view of your society where the majority should rule the minority is a backwards view that is based on divisive, fragmentary mentalities. Your right to impose your interpretation of your own religion on yourself is protected under a secular system of civil laws, but you definitely do not have the right to impose this interpretation on the population at large.

This is not my interpretation, Islam clearly says Sharia must be implemented. And this is not subject to change, like what happened with the church, the religion is static and fixed. And Yes I know there are a lot of minorities in the region, however this wasnt an obstacle during the past 1400 years.

Also one more thing I like to add, you and the rest of the fellow members here have been preaching moderation and telling me how an Islamic rule would be in complete contradiction with it. But tell me, is there a regime, state or kingdom in the world that is completely moderate and in which all sects or ethnic minorities are treated equally? Muslims/Arabs are considered terrorists in the west, even some members here seriously consider the sunna in Lebanon Wahhabi terrorists(not saying that I consider wahhabism is an accusation).

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by zoomzoom

If you are a Christian, and unfortunately I have to identify myself as an Arab Christian, it would be a disasterous situation to encourage or think about changing the regime in Syria. You have almost 2 million Christians in Syria, a regime change would almost guarantee a mass imigration of Chriatians in Syria.

Why is that?

[Libnene Qu7]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Why is that?

Originally Posted by Saladin

This is not my interpretation, Islam clearly says Sharia must be implemented. And this is not subject to change, like what happened with the church, the religion is static and fixed. And Yes I know there are a lot of minorities in the region, however this wasnt an obstacle during the past 1400 years.

Also one more thing I like to add, you and the rest of the fellow members here have been preaching moderation and telling me how an Islamic rule would be in complete contradiction with it. But tell me, is there a regime, state or kingdom in the world that is completely moderate and in which all sects or ethnic minorities are treated equally? Muslims/Arabs are considered terrorists in the west, even some members here seriously consider the sunna in Lebanon Wahhabi terrorists(not saying that I consider wahhabism is an accusation).

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[Salome]

Originally Posted by zoomzoom

If you are a Christian, and unfortunately I have to identify myself as an Arab Christian, it would be a disasterous situation to encourage or think about changing the regime in Syria. You have almost 2 million Christians in Syria, a regime change would almost guarantee a mass imigration of Chriatians in Syria.

So many christians remained in Syria?? I didnt know
Yeah that would happen if the new regime would introduce sharia

Originally Posted by Saladin

...Muslims/Arabs are considered terrorists in the west...

some ignorants yes, but have to say common is the ignorant people who have vague infos only from media
and the recent radicalization going on all over the world is not helping to clear the picture or to get the label off...even the muslims who live in Europe, many tend to get ever more radical, especially the second or third generation muslims who dont seek integration anymore, and wish to live by the sharia in the west

[3asheq Beirut]

Originally Posted by Saladin

This is not my interpretation, Islam clearly says Sharia must be implemented. And this is not subject to change, like what happened with the church, the religion is static and fixed. And Yes I know there are a lot of minorities in the region, however this wasnt an obstacle during the past 1400 years.

Also one more thing I like to add, you and the rest of the fellow members here have been preaching moderation and telling me how an Islamic rule would be in complete contradiction with it. But tell me, is there a regime, state or kingdom in the world that is completely moderate and in which all sects or ethnic minorities are treated equally? Muslims/Arabs are considered terrorists in the west, even some members here seriously consider the sunna in Lebanon Wahhabi terrorists(not saying that I consider wahhabism is an accusation).

The way that Sharia is implemented is based on interpretation. There are Muslims who are pious and religious and yet who do not support that concept of a religious state. And as far as the past 1400 years, the Islamic state very clearly discriminated against non-Muslims as it treated them differently than it did the Muslims. This cannot be the basis of a modern, efficient state, as a large portion of the population will be subject to different treatment. The only way to have a fair, just system is through the concept of citizenship, where all citizens of the single nation are treated equally under the law, and no discrimination is made between different religions, sects, ethnicities, etc.

As for moderation, I never used that word. I didn't argue that the state should be "moderate" or "radical" because I know these terms are subjective. However, what I do know is that the state needs to represent the interest of the nation and offer a system whereby all citizens are viewed as equal members of a single nation and where their productive potentialities are maximized. This is impossible under a religious state because such a state is by definition discriminatory.

[Anny]

Lets face it, if the syrian regim changes, it will become another Irak, a huge war, the killing of thousands of minorities such at the Baath people and a total immigration of the chrisitans or their death. Who wants that? No one specially not the sunnies that are against the regime today coz that will garantie a huge war and bombs here and there like Irak.

Who wants a change, Israel and the USA coz they will gain alot from such a turn over.

[Souss]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Then I guess the regime won't be moderate.

It's good that you are honest about it. I prefer intolerant extremists that are open about their views as opposed to those who posture as moderate and open-minded.

[Anny]

Originally Posted by Anny

Lets face it, if the syrian regim changes, it will become another Irak, a huge war, the killing of thousands of minorities such at the Baath people and a total immigration of the chrisitans or their death. Who wants that? No one specially not the sunnies that are against the regime today coz that will garantie a huge war and bombs here and there like Irak.

Who wants a change, Israel and the USA coz they will gain alot from such a turn over.

I mean emigration not immigration