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Default CIA Report: Israel Will Fall In 20 Years - 18th March 2009



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See also: Fearing a One-State Solution, Israel’s President Serves Pabulum to Washington

March 13, 2009 "Press TV" -- A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel's survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region."

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

"There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.

"So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall...[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later," Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an 'Israeli land' would happen 'way sooner' than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public -- which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv's measures in the last 25 years -- may 'not take it anymore'.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.

See also: Fearing a One-State Solution, Israel’s President Serves Pabulum to Washington
If this report exists or not, is authentic or not, should not be the topic of discussion, since we will have to assume it does exist and that it is authentic now that it has been referred to by several respected news sources, including the one in the link above.

What is also interesting, from our Lebanese perspective, is the extent to which these kind of "CIA leaked" reports are done on purpose to achieve a certain something. For example, could this be the kind of an on-purpose implanted psycho-political trap, high level Bollywood style, where false information is deliberately spread out, but with specific receivers in mind like Iran, Syria, Hizbollah and Hamas? Is the purpose behind this info to make those entities believe that they were so correct after all in their doctrines about the inevitable and soon-coming end of Israel? That, given some time - what's 20 years in this context- Israel will fall like an overmatured apple, and all they have to do is to maintain or increase their warring readiness and violent rhetorics against it?

I mean, it doesn't need a genius to understand that the mere existence of such report will make Iran, Syria and Hizbullah more inclined to "wait out" Israels withering, and that any presumed plans for peace or peace talks with Israel can safely be ignored, in the near future.

But even more interesting becomes the question: If the leaked info is now deliberately constructed to achieve this, what comes next, giving that this info in fact does only confirm those entities own already adopted beliefs?

Or does this report express a genuine alert voiced by so called intelligence experts regarding an observed and analyzed process and which is meant to reach the eyes, ears and brains of those who have interests and capacities to halt or reverse it?

Or is it meant as a pure prediction of what is unavoidable and is bound to happen, given certain tendencies and/or estimated courses of events?

Me personally, I don't like that I like it.
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Taifoon the western instigators of the mercenary state of israel knew that at some point in time their colonial project would falter. They knew that it was unreal to suggest the longevity of an aggresive Jewish state in the midst of an Arab ocean. They knew they could sustain it for a time, and that its inherent purpose would lead to its demise.

They set the biggest trap the Jews fell into. Israel was never meant as salvation, what kind of salvation leads to being surrounded by enemies. And they knew, of course they knew, that israel would immediatly torch rage in the hearts of every Arab. It was the biggest dupe the Jews every fell into. The Europeans indeed solves their millenia old problem. Not by murdering them, no centuries of massacres prooved useless, they needed to export them, like cattle, to another place. Where they could serve dual purpose; relieve their large presence from Europe and instigate flaming wars in the middle east and cause unrest.
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What kind of source is this?? Certainly not academic..

whatever, nobody is stupid that much not even Iran or Syria...so if there would be any intention behind this gossip, that would be to pressure Israeli public opinion.

Obama has a new Mideast team...but am personally interested in the outcome of the back channel communication going on, what of course we can not know yet.
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Didn't the CIA predict that the Arabs would win the war against israel and we failed miserably at the time?
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CIA is still looking for the WMD's of Iraq
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Israel will seize to exist, this is certain. One factor behind this certainty is the demography of our region. We have about 5 or 6 million Zionists surrounded by more than 350 Millions Arabs who seek their annihilation, not to mention the people of Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran etc.. And inside Israel it self, we have about 1.5 million Palestinian. Every Palestinian newborn is a threat to Israels' existence. The Zionists are aware of this fact and are desperately trying to limit this threat by practicing ethnic cleansing in Jerusalem and Gaza.
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If this report exists or not, is authentic or not, should not be the topic of discussion, since we will have to assume it does exist and that it is authentic now that it has been referred to by several respected news sources, including the one in the link above.
I do apologize for not checking better the source of this so called report.. It turned out to come from a much biased source, Press TV.

Without belittling the source and in own words "Press TV takes revolutionary steps as the first Iranian international news network, broadcasting in English on a round-the-clock basis..".

Therefore I can not trust the authenticity - nor the existence- of such report anymore, and ask the mods to kindly seal this this thread with red wax.
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