The Christians of Iraq

[dodzi]

CNN Attacks on Christians in Iraq leave 3 dead Story Highlights - Christian woman and her daughter-in-law's throats slit in their home late Sunday - In nearby neighborhood in Kirkuk, gunmen shoot father and three sons; one dies - Targeted by extremists, many of Iraq's 1 million Christians have fled country By Jomana Karadsheh CNN BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two attacks on Christian families in the city of Kirkuk on Sunday evening left three people dead and two others wounded, police said. The first occurred in a neighborhood in southern Kirkuk when a Christian woman and her daughter-in-law were murdered in their home late night Sunday. Police told CNN the attackers slit the women's throats. In a neighborhood close by, gunmen attacked a Christian family in their home, shooting a father and his three sons, police said. One of the sons died instantly and the other son and the father were wounded. Many of Iraq's estimated 1 million Christians have fled the country after targeted attacks by extremists. In October, more than a thousand Iraqi families fled the northern city of Mosul after they were reportedly frightened by a series of killings and threats by Muslim extremists, who apparently ordered them to convert to Islam or face possible death. At least 14 Christians were killed in Mosul in the first two weeks of October. Kirkuk is 150 miles (240 km) north of Baghdad.

The major question is "why"? Why are Christians persecuted in Iraq? What have they done?

As far as I'm concerned, the Christians don't have a militia, have never participated in massacres against their fellow Iraqis, have been there for centuries, living side by side with their fellow Muslim and Jewish brothers, in relative peace...

Why is this happening right now?

Perhaps some of our fellow forum members than happen to be well aware of the ground situations and the terrorists' point of view... Some of the fellow members seem to agree with Taliban/Al Qaida-type behaviors and ideology. As far as I'm concerned, this is nowhere different. So perhaps these members can enlighten us!

[Libnene Qu7]

This is the typical behavior of a Middle Eatern or Arab society with minorities. The Arabs are the least humane, least cultured, and least democratic people on the planet. If an area had a majority of Arab Christians, you will see the same thing done to minorities. There's something about the Arab language and this area's climate that dumbs down the mind and turns humans into beasts. I am positive that if it wasn't for Israel's existence as a common enemy (at least on the surface), the Arabs would have been locked in perpetual wars that would have made WW2 look like a picnic.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

This is the typical behavior of a Middle Eatern or Arab society with minorities. The Arabs are the least humane, least cultured, and least democratic people on the planet. If an area had a majority of Arab Christians, you will see the same thing done to minorities. There's something about the Arab language and this area's climate that dumbs down the mind and turns humans into beasts. I am positive that if it wasn't for Israel's existence as a common enemy (at least on the surface), the Arabs would have been locked in perpetual wars that would have made WW2 look like a picnic.

The is pure racism.

[SamerTayyar]

Originally Posted by Saladin

The is pure racism.

thats the reality, prove him wrong..

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by SamerTayyar

thats the reality, prove him wrong..

History is enough proof. Umayyads/Abbasids are examples of great Arab/Islamic empires. Also Arabs had great contributions in scientific concepts. I'm not willing to dwell much into these, just want to say Arabs are humans .

And Lebnene Qu7, regarding the Arabic language, the fact its the language of the Quran gives it honor and respect no other language shall ever have.

[SamerTayyar]

Originally Posted by Saladin

History is enough proof. Umayyads/Abbasids are examples of great Arab/Islamic empires. Also Arabs had great contributions in scientific concepts. I'm not willing to dwell much into these, just want to say Arabs are humans .

Saladin, arabs never made contributions. They ruled and had power,
but all the philosiphers and scientists were brought from Iran. They
were persian jews to be specific. I will open a new thread on it later
on since its not related to this thread. I was meaning to indulge in such
a discussion for some time now, hope to see you there

[Wandering Wonder]

The area is Kirkuk correct? Similar events have happened also in Mosul.what do Mosul and Kirkuk has in common besides having Christian minorities??They are both claimed by Kurdish nationalists.These killings are the work of Kurdish Peshmerga and other pro Kurdish factions in an attempt to scare away Christians or force them into accepting Kurdish hegemony in the area.Same has happened to Arab Muslims as well.

There has been a campaign to Kurdify Iraqi Christians.I was watching a video on-line about Kurdistan and the video labels Assyrian Christians as "Kurdish Christians".

Don't get me wrong,sure the radical Muslims have done bad as well but in this case it just is not them responsible not to mention the groups who have had it worst in Iraq are the Muslims themselves.Also more Yezidis were killed in one instance by a bombing(700 killed) than all attacks on Christians put together since the start of the war.Where is the outcry for the Yezidis huh?

[Wandering Wonder]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

This is the typical behavior of a Middle Eatern or Arab society with minorities. The Arabs are the least humane, least cultured, and least democratic people on the planet. If an area had a majority of Arab Christians, you will see the same thing done to minorities. There's something about the Arab language and this area's climate that dumbs down the mind and turns humans into beasts. I am positive that if it wasn't for Israel's existence as a common enemy (at least on the surface), the Arabs would have been locked in perpetual wars that would have made WW2 look like a picnic.

Are the so called Phoenicians better? The first ruler of Rome that allowed Christianity was an Arab by the name of Philip.Do not confuse the uneducated bedouins with the cultured Arabs of Saba and Mesopotamia.The southern Qahtani Arabs always looked down upon their Adnani cousins.

When people speak of savage Arabs burying their daughters alive it is in reference to those Adnani tribes,it was never a custom among most pre-Islamic Arabs.

[Zayn]

Originally Posted by dodzi

The major question is "why"? Why are Christians persecuted in Iraq? What have they done?

As far as I'm concerned, the Christians don't have a militia, have never participated in massacres against their fellow Iraqis, have been there for centuries, living side by side with their fellow Muslim and Jewish brothers, in relative peace...

Why is this happening right now?

Perhaps some of our fellow forum members than happen to be well aware of the ground situations and the terrorists' point of view... Some of the fellow members seem to agree with Taliban/Al Qaida-type behaviors and ideology. As far as I'm concerned, this is nowhere different. So perhaps these members can enlighten us!

Iraq is a country where the ones with guns hold the power. Like you said, the Christians don't have a militia and don't fight, so they're going to get pushed around just like every other person in Iraq without the means to defend themselves.

I'd say that the majority of these killings have more to do with wanting another person's property or resources rather than just blind, faith-based killings. I point to the fact that everybody in Iraq has suffered from violence, particularly the Shi'a.

Maybe we should start a thread called "Muslims of Iraq"?

[Zayn]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

This is the typical behavior of a Middle Eatern or Arab society with minorities. The Arabs are the least humane, least cultured, and least democratic people on the planet. If an area had a majority of Arab Christians, you will see the same thing done to minorities. There's something about the Arab language and this area's climate that dumbs down the mind and turns humans into beasts. I am positive that if it wasn't for Israel's existence as a common enemy (at least on the surface), the Arabs would have been locked in perpetual wars that would have made WW2 look like a picnic.

You're giving us far too much credit. Europeans, Asians, and Africans have done far worse to each other than the Arabs could ever dream of.

And you're right about near-genocidal tendencies not being exclusive to Islam. Look at Lebanon in the 70s for a great example.