Can a Palestinian Nonviolent Resistance Help?

[Salome]

This was shot in Bilin...





A Palestinian demonstrator confronts an Israeli soldier during a protest against Israel's controversial separation barrier near the West Bank village of Bilin February 2, 2007.

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Women mourn after a rocket hit a house in the northern Israeli town of Deir al-Assad August 10, 2006. A rocket fired by Lebanese Hizbollah guerrillas hit a house in Deir al-Assad, killing two people, including a toddler, emergency services said.

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and the circle of violence and hatred goes on...

[Salome]

Originally Posted by zoomzoom

Abbas should resign his post as the President of the PNA and dissolve the organisation, bringing the situation back to what it had been before the Oslo Accords. Israel, as the foreign occupier, will then have to assume direct charge of administering the Occupied Territories, much as before the signing of the accords that relieved Israel from the burden of a very taxing administrative task. Someone such as Mustafa Barghouti would take the lead in organizing Palestinians and resort to an effective, non-violent method to achieve the national goals by rallying the Palestinian in calling for a general civil disobedience in all the Occupied Palestinian Territories.The time is now ripe for the launching of a serious all-out resistance that would bring an end to the Israeli occupation and bring to realisation the independent sovereign Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. This is the first step where in the long run it is just got to be two people in one state. I don't see anything else.

I still don't get how it is viable. What will happen with the israeli side, would they just disappear along with their army? How will the jews and arabs live together peacefully after so much violence, is it possible?

Are YOU ready to live together with those who were killing your brothers??

Ok Jerusalem would be the capital, but what would be it's status? You know how symbolic it is for the various religions.

By the way, Barghouti is still in prison, right?

[Salome]

A member of the Palestinian security forces (R) kicks a Palestinian stone-thrower, protesting Israel's offensive in Gaza, in the West Bank town of Bethlehem January 8, 2009.

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Palestinians climb the controversial Israeli barrier, as they try to bypass the Aram checkpoint, on the edge of Jerusalem, October 20, 2006.

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A Palestinian demonstrator uses a sling against Israeli soldiers during a protest against the construction of Israel's controversial barrier near the West Bank village of Beit Ommar near Hebron January 12, 2008.

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[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by Salome

I still don't get how it is viable. What will happen with the israeli side, would they just disappear along with their army? How will the jews and arabs live together peacefully after so much violence, is it possible?

Are YOU ready to live together with those who were killing your brothers??

Ok Jerusalem would be the capital, but what would be it's status? You know how symbolic it is for the various religions.

By the way, Barghouti is still in prison, right?

Well, we have to come to the realization that Arabs and Jews belong in this land. One person one vote system would allow for all residents to vote for a new parlaiment that would effectively decide who should lead the country. Arabs and Jews can build a strong nation if we all participate in building such a nation. The south african approach is a good example of what I'm suggesting.

Mustafa is not in Jail. His cousin Marwan Barghouti is in jail.

[Zayn]

Originally Posted by shreek

la2 ya zoomzoom, hala2 byiji zayn and will tell you how dare you say this......

I am not a fan of Arafat. He was a terrible commander although he is nowhere near as bad as Mahmoud Abbas.

That being said, if Arafat did not lead the Palestinians for so many years, we would have a state by now. Israel made sure that only the most incompetent leaders stayed alive.

Still waiting for you to reply to post #17.

[Zayn]

Palestinian with a bag over his head throws a teargas canister back at Israeli occupation terrorists.

[amalhope]

Originally Posted by Zayn

I thought I just told you that the first intifada wasn't just about throwing rocks. "Sit-ins" as you've described them are done everyday. The protesters are dispersed with tear gas, rubber bullets (which are often deadly), live ammunition, and riot police. Western media, particularly American, does not cover these events because they are only interested in Israeli deaths and injuries.

And I thought I already told you that I am talking about something much larger in scale. I mean this multiplied by 50 the number of people in the picture:

http://australiansforpalestine.com/w...at-Budrus1.jpg

If all the inhabitants of a village or town do a massive sit-in, it cannot be dispersed or it can't as easily be done. The more massive things get the more pressured news sources feel to provide coverage. As I said earlier, it might not work, but it's worth a try.

During the offensive on Gaza there were many protests around the world and in the city I live in. The first protest only gathered around 300 people. It got no media coverage. The second protest had over 600 people. It got media attention.

Western media has always been biased, but when news is big there's more pressure on them to report about it.

[Zayn]

Originally Posted by amalhope

And I thought I already told you that I am talking about something much larger in scale. I mean this multiplied by 50 the number of people in the picture:

http://australiansforpalestine.com/w...at-Budrus1.jpg

If all the inhabitants of a village or town do a massive sit-in, it cannot be dispersed or it can't as easily be done. The more massive things get the more pressured news sources feel to provide coverage. As I said earlier, it might not work, but it's worth a try.

During the offensive on Gaza there were many protests around the world and in the city I live in. The first protest only gathered around 300 people. It got no media coverage. The second protest had over 600 people. It got media attention.

Western media has always been biased, but when news is big there's more pressure on them to report about it.

You are not very familiar with the structure of the occupation. The cities are under Palestinian control while everywhere else is run by the Israeli occupation forces to protect settlers. There are checkpoints all throughout the West Bank specifically designed to hinder the movement of large bodies (say, a few thousand), of people from moving from one area to another. You cannot stage a sit-in in that regard.

Also, entire villages do protest the occupation, only to be met with violence. The Palestinians have tried every form of resistance there is. You are not coming up with anything new.

[amalhope]

Originally Posted by zoomzoom

Well, we have to come to the realization that Arabs and Jews belong in this land.

I disagree. "Jews" don't belong in this land. Religious affiliation does not grant a person a right to any land.

When I talk of a one-state solution, that already is a compromise to let whoever has already settled in the land to stay, even though that is not 100% just.

Jewish immigration needs to stop and settlement building needs to cease.

Palestinian refugees (of all religions or no religion) need to return to their homeland.

[Zayn]

Originally Posted by amalhope

I disagree. "Jews" don't belong in this land. Religious affiliation does not grant a person a right to any land.

When I talk of a one-state solution, that already is a compromise to let whoever has already settled in the land to stay, even though that is not 100% just.

Jewish immigration needs to stop and settlement building needs to cease.

Palestinian refugees (of all religions or no religion) need to return to their homeland.

You cannot deport the Jews. They are there to stay as they please. One state for two people is the only rational solution to this conflict. The Jews will lose their majority and the Arabs will have to accept a Jewish presence.