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Originally Posted by shreek Wlik aya Representatives? You mean Abu Mazen, the guy who decided to shelve the UN report on Gaza?! Come on man! |
No, I mean Hamas. Do you think Abbas has anymore legitimacy with Palestinians?
By the way, you still didn't answer 99% of the questions I posed to you.
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You went to a Mosque? Ma 3a ases you’re not Muslim wa ma ilak dikhil bil deen. Moohem, be careful to whom you are donating to in the country that feeds you, because HAMAS is a terrorist entity in the US.
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Yes, and I have entered churches and synagogues. All because I am atheist does not mean that I cannot share a common cause with men and women of religion.
And our donations are tax deductible and go directly to buying sustainable aid for ordinary Gazans. Do not lecture me on where donations go. You can donate as well if you'd like.
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In anycase, my point was through your (Palestinian) actions you have lost all support from Arab States, not just the Gulf, almost every Arab State. Badak tinkor haza?Sorry the site I will not visit, it is not objective.
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Support from many puppet governments is gone, but it's not gone from the hearts and minds of the Arab people. Note that the gulf states cut backing for the PLO (which was not even based in Palestine at the time) for backing Iraq in the Gulf War, not because it gave up on the Palestinian issue. It's not off of Al-Jazeera, it's not out of the newspapers. It's still on the world's mind and is one of the most important issues in the world. You also seem to forget that many people from the Gulf switched funding to Hamas rather than the PLO in the 90s, which is why they were able to build so many schools, hospitals, and other social services that the PLO could not. It also led to an increase in their popularity.
I see that you have switched your stance, however. First it was "Arabo-Islamic." Now it's just "most Arab states." Funny how your rigid views can be switched so quickly.
I also don't know why you equate this to defeat for the Palestinian people. Why do you think that the success of the Palestinian movement hinges on donations from Gulf States? I am sorry, but the Palestinians do not follow the Hariri model. They have fought the Israelis on their own for decades with nothing but stones, slingshots, and crude weapons. Do you think Saudi Arabia bought all of the stones for the first Intifada?
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Granted, but only if you do not associate me to Hariri and his likes
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It's hard not to when you seem to think that Arab opinion hinges on donations from US-backed Gulf States.
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Pffftt, leish you think Lebanese Citizens can enter these camps? Wlik the Army Can’t enter those camps…
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I am an American citizen and I entered the camps. There is no gate outside of Sabra where they check your ID before you go in, genius. You can just go in and peruse as you please. It's funny how you comment on Lebanese refugee camps but you've never been to one. I think this is very indicative of your knowledge on this topic. You literally make things up out of thin air and try to pass it off to somebody who has actually been there.
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Zayn, naher-el-bared, that is way of topic and will not go into it here, but let me tell you something, Syria wouldn't have been so kind had the same occurred there!
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You were the one comparing yourself to Syria. Syria never had a Nahr Al-Bared incident. It is illogical for you to assume what the Syrians might do in the same situation, because it has never happened. You can stop talking about refugee camps now because you know nothing about them.
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Bek Shi? How many Arabo-Islamic States are there? 3edon. My point is clear, there is, as you’ve stated, only 1 Arab State and 1 Islamic state supporting you out of two dozen countries almost. Eh yikhzel3ain allah awekon!
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First of all, what is this "Arabo-Islamic" term you keep using? Where did you find this term? It's really, really stupid. You seem to think that the Arab world has forgotten about the Palestinian cause because puppet regimes do not.
The United Nations, through UNRWA, provides more aid to Palestinians than it does to any other group of people on the planet. This is funded through collective donations from all member states. You also forget that the Palestinians are the most heavily subsidized people on the planet.
UNRWA Official Homepage (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East)
By the way, several Arab states do back Palestinian elements, but they are mostly the collaborators of Mahmoud Abbas and Mohammad Dahlan.
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Used akeed. You are a proxy to a larger socio-political drama being played out by the US, Iran-Syrian axis and Israel.
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So the Palestinians didn't have a problem with Israel before the "Iran-Syrian" axis decided it wanted to destroy Israel? How is it that you know so little about this topic yet you are from the region?
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Which Europeans, George Galloway….?:biggrin
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Not just Galloway, there are Europeans who have led the fight in Boycotting, Divesting, and Sanctioning Israel. Several Israeli ministers and military generals cannot even enter countries like Britain for fear of prosecution for war crimes.
Really, you are being proven wrong on every point you make, yet you continue typing to me. Are you bitter about something? The next time you post, please actually try to:
1. Back your points up with
factual evidence.
2. Cut out this stupid Arablish you're typing to me in an attempt to try and make it seem like you're casually replying, in reality, you are being humiliated and you know it.
3. Make sense.