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بوش: مؤتمر العراق سيكون "اختبارا" لايران وسوريا

قال الرئيس الاميركي جورج بوش الثلاثاء ان المؤتمر الدولي الذي سيعقد قريبا حول العراق سيكون "اختبارا" لجدية ايران وسوريا في استعدادهما للمساعدة في خفض حدة العنف في هذا البلد.
وقال بوش في خطاب امام منظمة "اميركا ليجون" لقدامى الحرب الاميركيين ان "هذه الاجتماعات ستكون اختبارا مهما. وستكون اختبارا حول ما اذا كان يهم ايران وسوريا بالفعل ان تكونا قوتين بناءتين في العراق".

واضاف الرئيس الاميركي ان هذه الاجتماعات "ستكون اختبارا للمجتمع الدولي ليعرب عن دعمه للديموقراطية الفتية ودعم شعب يعيش في سلام مع جيرانه".

وكان بوش يشير الى المؤتمر الذي دعا العراق الى انعقاده في العاشر من اذار/مارس الجاري في بغداد بمشاركة مسؤولين من الدول المجاورة للعراق والدول الخمس الدائمة العضوية في الامم المتحدة -- بريطانيا الصين فرنسا روسيا الولايات المتحدة -- وممثلين عن الجامعة العربية ومنظمة المؤتمر الاسلامي.

واشار بوش كذك الى ان مؤتمرا حول مستقبل العراق سيعقد في نيسان/ابريل على مستوى وزراء الخارجية يضم عددا كبيرا من الدول بمشاركة وزيرة الخارجية الاميركية كوندوليزا رايس

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This round table is an important step, and an important sign that the US has realised its failures and is willing to talk to Syria and Iran to find a way out.

The US have also realised they can't win their way by bombing everyone to Mars, they do have to talk.

As was said earlier, Syria and Iran will be demanding concessions for any assistance on Iraq.

Syria wants the Hariri tribunal scrapped or adjusted so it keeps them out of it most of all, wants the US to end sanctions and wants to restart negotiations to get back the Golan.

Iran wants the US to stop threatening it and turn its ships back.

But what does the US want and what can it deliver?

That's what will be argued around the table.

Of course these discussions will involve Lebanon, because that's Syria's price for helping in Iraq and their representatives will make sure the Americans and Saudis on the table hear their price loud and clear.
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For me nothing, this news is non existant until the event happens.. A day before there could be a huge bombing in Iraq , US blaming Iran and saying it wont attend the meeting..

Lets wait and see
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A day before there could be a huge bombing in Iraq , US blaming Iran and saying it wont attend the meeting..
Scared? I think this is what you wish to happen because you are scared. You wish people to die and a country to burn to save streda and her husband only. it will stay a wish, believe me it will. Have a look at what is going on in the US and you will be sure that it is a wish that will never come true
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This conference is a smokescreen to serve this american administrations attempts to appease the ever growing domestic opposing voices against its purposeful aggressive plans in this region.

Bush and his israeli driven neo team cares less about Iraqs stability, it's the exact opposite they want: Cutting into small sectarian and boiling spots the entire region lying between Iran and the mediterranean AND the securing of a nuclear-free Iran. That's why they came there for and did what they done, in the first place.

You have all the living signs of those plans all around: Lebanon, Palestine and Iraq and the push for those plans has not halted yet..

So, conference or no conference: We, the people of this region, have already opened up our deep cracks and they are just enjoying the dancing fall of our domino pieces. Here's the latest updates: Iraq is no more, Iran is next on the hit-hard agenda. Our ONLY remaining hope as LEBANESE is to isolate ourselves from the rest, stick tightly together, and try to survive the coming holocaust. Sorry for this dark picture, but my palanthir shows no better today.
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This conference is a smokescreen to serve this american administrations attempts to appease the ever growing domestic opposing voices against its purposeful aggressive plans in this region.

Bush and his israeli driven neo team cares less about Iraqs stability, it's the exact opposite they want: Cutting into small sectarian and boiling spots the entire region lying between Iran and the mediterranean AND the securing of a nuclear-free Iran. That's why they came there for and did what they done, in the first place.

You have all the living signs of those plans all around: Lebanon, Palestine and Iraq and the push for those plans has not halted yet..

So, conference or no conference: We, the people of this region, have already opened up our deep cracks and they are just enjoying the dancing fall of our domino pieces. Here's the latest updates: Iraq is no more, Iran is next on the hit-hard agenda. Our ONLY remaining hope as LEBANESE is to isolate ourselves from the rest, stick tightly together, and try to survive the coming holocaust. Sorry for this dark picture, but my palanthir shows no better today.
I agree with your analysis to a certain extent. Even though the master plan is to divide Iraq into multiple states, and than move to the next target (Iran, Syria) the sole purpose of the conference as it concerns the US is to reduce the number of American casualties in Iraq. Today alone 9 soldiers died in various parts of Iraq. The public pressure on the Bush administration is tremendous. Pressure from the Republican Party is also great. Republicans are looking at the next elections with extreme worries. If the situation in Iraq remains as it is, Republicans don't stand a chance in the next presidential elections. In order to at least have a fighting chance, two things must happen before the election:
1- Reduce the number of casualties.
2- Set a definite time frame for troop withdrawal. (Even partial)
Eliminating HA was a big part in the master plan. When that failed in the summer war, compromises had to happen. The compromise now is stability in Iraq for sharing power in Lebanon. The US will give the opposition what they want if Iran will restrain the Mahdi Army from interfering in its operations. Signs of that are already showing. In the sweep of Baghdad, Muktada El Sadr ordered his fighters not to oppose the Americans. By doing so, the US's problems in Iraq are cut in half. All they have to do now is concentrate on the Al Qaeeda and the Sunni extremists.
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Scared? I think this is what you wish to happen because you are scared. You wish people to die and a country to burn to save streda and her husband only. it will stay a wish, believe me it will. Have a look at what is going on in the US and you will be sure that it is a wish that will never come true
You're really smart!!

Can you tell me how you came to the conclusion that all I want is death to the region?

Am really interested in knowing how you analysed my post..
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=t18B vAlign=top colSpan=2>U.S., Iran, Syria meet in Baghdad on Iraq stability
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</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD class=t11B vAlign=top colSpan=2>By News Agencies</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>An unprecedented conference opened in Baghdad on Saturday in order to discuss ways to stabilize sectarian violence in Iraq. The conference was attended by representatives from regional states, including Iran and Syria, as well as the five permanent UN Security Council members.
The meet marks the first time in two years that Iran and the United States have sat down together.
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki urged regional rivals to stop using Iraq as a battlefield to fight out their proxy wars, and entreated conference participants to adopt a firm stand against terrorism in Iraq and stop playing out their differences in his country.
</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD rowSpan=2></TD><TD class=t9></TD></TR><TR><TD align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>The sectarian violence has racked Iraq, killed tens of thousands and driven some 2 million abroad since the U.S.-led invasion four years ago that toppled former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
Shortly after the meeting started, two mortar rounds, crashed near the conference venue around lunchtime, and a car bomb in the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City miles away from the Foreign Ministry killed 20 people and wounded dozens, police said.
Besides finding ways to stop the bloodshed, the one-day meeting is also seen as a rare opportunity to bring Iran and the United States together, despite the fact that the two countries have clearly expressed their disapproval of each other.
"We call on all to take moral responsibility by adopting a strong and clear stance against terrorism in Iraq and cooperate in stamping out forces of terror," Maliki said, according to the text of his speech to the opening session of the conference.
He did not pick out any country individually but the United States has accused Iran and Syria of fomenting violence in Iraq and supplying weapons and support for militant groups, charges both countries deny. Delegates from all three countries attended the conference.
"We ... demand that regional or international states refrain from interfering or influencing the Iraqi state of affairs through supporting a certain sect, ethnicity or party," he said.
The Shiite prime minister said national reconciliation between Iraq's Shiite and Sunni factions was the only way to spare his country from sliding into all-out civil war and prevent the conflict from spreading beyond Iraqi borders.
"The reconciliation initiative is the ship that will save us," Maliki added. "Iraq, with its strategic location, must be seen as a key factor and an important player in the regional and international field."
The conference brought together mid-level officials from Iraq's neighbors, the permanent UN Security Council members - the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France - and Arab countries. There were 16 delegations in all.
Maliki also called on officials from regional and world powers to pursue dialogue to settle disputes over Iraq.

"We call for peaceful dialogue to settle disputes, including the international, regional, inter-regional issues," he said, adding that Iraq was ready to play a positive role in finding a solution to such disputes.

In his speech, Maliki also demanded to see a "unified regional and international stand in support of the Iraqi people ... with no distinction along sectarian lines."

"Our meeting with you today in Baghdad demonstrates support for the Iraqi people and Iraq's national unity government in our effort to confront all forms of terrorism in the country."

"We also wish to have our neighbors' support for confronting terrorism and look forward to more active international cooperation in reconstruction and development."
After Maliki's speech the delegates met behind closed doors for sessions expected to last most of the day.
Attention was also focused on the United States sitting down with Syria and Iran, both accused by Washington of fuelling the Iraq war by supporting either Sunni insurgents or Shiite militias. Iran and Syria deny the charges.

U.S., Iran delegates spar over detainees
U.S. and Iranian delegates to the conference in Baghdad sparred over the fate of five Iranians detained by U.S. forces earlier this year who Tehran says are diplomats.
The conference was a rare opportunity for officials from Washington and Tehran to sit down at the same table at a time of tension over Iran's nuclear ambitions. There was no immediate information on whether they had held bilateral talks.

Washington has led international efforts to impose tougher sanctions on Iran over its refusal to stop enriching uranium, which could be used for nuclear weapons, and has accused Iran of backing Shi'ite militias in southern Iraq. Tehran denies both.
A source at the multilateral talks said Iranian delegates used the forum to demand the release of several Iranians captured by U.S. forces in Iraq in recent months.
U.S. soldiers seized five men Tehran says are diplomats in a raid on an Iranian government office in the northern Iraqi city of Arbil on Jan. 11.
The raid came hours after U.S. President George W. Bush pledged to crack down on what he called the "flow of support" from Iran to Iraqi militants. The arrests were the second such incident in a month.
U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, in a speech at the conference, urged Iraq's neighbours and other world powers to do more to help Iraq. Apparently responding to the Iranian concerns about the detainees, Khalilzad said: "The Coalition does not have anyone in detention who is a diplomat."
"The U.S. and Coalition forces will continue to take appropriate steps under our mandate to protect Iraq's citizens, and our soldiers, from foreign elements who are contributing to violence in Iraq," he said.
The Iranian delegation arrived in the conference hall and took their seats without making any direct contact with U.S. delegates shortly before the meeting officially opened.
The flags of the delegations were arrayed on the podium of the conference hall, the Stars and Stripes of America next to Russia's flag, a discreet distance from those of Iran and Syria.

President George W. Bush said the U.S. message to Damascus and Tehran would be clear at Saturday's conference - to help Iraq's "young democracy."

The United States would "defend ourselves and the people in Iraq from weapons shipped in to cause harm", he added.

While the conference seeks ways to provide regional support for the Iraqi government, it comes against a background of increasing U.S.-Iranian tension over Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

Washington has led international efforts to impose tougher sanctions on Iran over its refusal to stop enriching uranium, which could be used for nuclear weapons, and has accused Iran of backing Shiite militias in southern Iraq. Tehran denies both.

Washington, which has no diplomatic relations with Iran, has had contacts with Iranian officials in group settings, including as recently as September, but has resisted bilateral talks.

The United States has diplomatic relations with Syria but withdrew its ambassador to Damascus in early 2005 and has not had high-level contacts for the past two years.


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The US Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad on the sidelines of Baghdad meeting here Saturday approached the Iranian delegation and welcomed their attendance in the meeting.


According to an informed source, Khalilzad shook hands with members of the Iranian delegation.

He had already said on Friday there would be a possibility of direct talks between Iran and the US during Baghdad meeting.

The source refrained to disclose details of conversation between the US ambassador in Iraq with Iranian representative or other members of the delegation.
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لقاء ضم امريكا وبريطانيا مع ايران وسوريا

قال هوشيار زيباري وزير الخارجية العراقي يوم السبت إن لقاء تم بين وفدي امريكا وبريطانيا مع وفدي ايران وسوريا على هامش اجتماع الدول المجاورة للعراق.

واضاف وزير الخارجية العراقي في مؤتمر صحفي عقده في بغداد في نهاية المؤتمر الذي حضرته الدول المجاورة للعراق وعدد من القوى الدولية ان الاجتماع شهد "نقطة ايجابية وفعالة وهي التفاعل الذي حدث بين الوفد الامريكي والبريطاني مع وفد الجمهورية الاسلامية (ايران) وسوريا."
واضاف زيباري ان النقاشات في هذا اللقاء "تركزت اساسا على تعاون وحرص الجميع على تحقيق الامن والاستقرار في العراق."

وقال إن الدول المجتمعة توصلت "وبناء على مقترح عراقي الى تشكيل ثلاث لجان فنية على مستوى الخبراء."

واضاف ان اللجنة الاولى "سوف تختص على مستوى التعاون والتنسيق الامني لمتابعة وتفعيل الاتفاقات الامنية السابقة مع هذه الدول لمساعدة الحكومة في مكافحة الارهاب ومنع التسلل وضبط الحدود وكل ماله علاقة بامن العراق."

وقال زيباري إن اللجنة الثانية ستكون مهمتها "كل مايتعلق بالمهجرين والمهاجرين العراقيين الى دول الجوار."

واضاف ان الدول المشاركة اثنت على ماقامت به "المملكة العربية الهاشمية وسوريا وعلى ما قدم من خدمات جليلة الى ابناءنا الذين اضطروا الى الهجرة بسبب الظروف القاسية والظروف الامنية."

واشار الى ان الحكومة العراقية اكدت انها "سوف تتحمل مسؤولياتها في هذا المجال."
وقال الوزير العراقي ان اللجنة الثالثة ستختص "بتوريدات الوقود والطاقة الى العراق وحل المشاكل الفنية والبيروقرطية التي تواجه العراق في هذا المجال."

واضاف ان الدول المشاركة لم تتفق على تحديد مكان وموعد الاجتماع القادم وان المشاركين اتفقوا على تخويل العراق في متابعة هذا الموضوع.

وقال ان العراق طالب "ان يحافظ على حقه في استضافة الاجتماع الوزاري في المستقبل لكن كانت هناك مقترحات وعروضات من مصر وتركيا لاستضافة اجتماع لدول الجوار (القادم)."

واضاف "الاتفاق جرى ان يخول وزير الخارجية العراقي لمتابعة الاتصالات والمشاورات للاتفاق على مكان وزمان وتركيبة الاجتماع القادم."

ووصف زيباري اجواء الاجتماع بأنها كانت "ايجابية وفي اعتقادنا توصلنا الى نتائج طيبة في هذا المجال.. وان الخطوات القادمة سوف تكون اهم وان هذه الالية الية اجتماعات دول الجوار سوف تستمر في المستقبل."

واضاف "لا حظنا تجاوبا كبيرا من هذه الدول وحرصها على الوقوف مع الحكومة والشعب العراقي لتجاوز الازمة.

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