Was 9/11 the biggest scam of the century? - The Orange Room

Youchka

I know few threads were opened on the subject of 9/11 and many people already discussed some facets of the event, however, today I watched few videos related to 9/11 that made me actually re-question many things, details.

These are the videos:

In this first one, apart from the personal reasoning and salt and pepper, what can we say about the official reports concerning the Israeli spying inside the US?

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We all heard the story of the steel inside the 3 buildings melting and thus making each floor collapsing on the other. Can anyone see the top floors falling on the lower ones? Aren't we seeing the building falling from below?

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The Pentagon (we have a thread about this issue)! Why was the plane never shown?

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Did they actually need "a catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor?

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NORAD and the simulations, why did the US officials deny them?

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I know that the US people refuse to believe that their administration could have had anything to do with 9/11, that is, because it is such a huge issue, too big to handle, to digest.

But what if?
Lebanese are accused of liking conspiracy theories, but aren't all happenings in politics more or less conspiracy theories? Wasn't Saddam's attack on Kuwait a conspiracy theory? Wasn't Ben Laden's creation and strengthening a result of a conspiracy theory? What about Lebanon's 2005 elections weren't they a conspiracy theory?

Mr Aoun

Watch this
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay...31388742388243

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

<i>"We all heard the story of the steel inside the 3 buildings melting and thus making each floor collapsing on the other. Can anyone see the top floors falling on the lower ones? Aren't we seeing the building falling from below?"</i>

I do not think temperature could reach steel's melting point of 1450C-1510C (depending on composition). However, it was hardly necessary. At approx. 550C - 600C steel starts getting red (you will be able to see it in dark room). At approx. 700C (red can be seen in the light of day) it becomes much weaker and can no longer carry the load designed for -40C - +50C.
700C and even more is easily achievable in those circumstances.

Second fact. If all construction pieces are absolutely identical, the piece loaded the most gives way first.

Do the math.

PS. Didn't twins start collapsing at the point of impact?

Mr Aoun

^ What caused building 7 to implode?

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...7&search_type=

GeaGea SkyWalkeR

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Originally Posted by Mr Aoun

^ What caused building 7 to implode?

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...7&search_type=

Arabic Muslim terrorist that want to attack the free western world.

Dalzi

Watch "Fahrenheit 9/11".

Abu Ruman

Theories sound nice, but that doesnt make them true.

They talk about how the columns fell in a way which could only have been triggered by internal explosives. But it could very possibly have also been the result of the gas lines being set off by the fire.

At the end, speculation is not causation.

Mr Aoun

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Originally Posted by Abu Ruman

Theories sound nice, but that doesnt make them true.

They talk about how the columns fell in a way which could only have been triggered by internal explosives. But it could very possibly have also been the result of the gas lines being set off by the fire.

At the end, speculation is not causation.

gas lines? lol, that in itself is a 'theory that sounds nice'

9/11 Truth: MIT Engineer Jeff King Says WTC Demolished
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8XToX7aSdg[/YOUTUBE]

9/11 Truth: What Happened to Building 7
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEuJimaumW4[/YOUTUBE]

What i'm still confused about the most, is why there hasn't been any footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. You'd expect the most secure building on earth has around the clock video surveillance of every brick ... but nop, apparently there's no such thing.

Abu Ruman

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Originally Posted by Mr Aoun

gas lines? lol, that in itself is a 'theory that sounds nice'

Are you telling me you've never heard of a gas line?

Anyways Mr. Aoun, tell me when you've proven your theory. Maybe after that, we can also open a thread on how the moon landing was a hoax.

GeaGea SkyWalkeR

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Originally Posted by Abu Ruman

Are you telling me you've never heard of a gas line?

Anyways Mr. Aoun, tell me when you've proven your theory. Maybe after that, we can also open a thread on how the moon landing was a hoax.

Gas lines, Thats Interesting, How much do you know about gas, How big where the lines, What type of gas was it , What kind of piping and valves were in place, How much gas were in the lines at the time or what was the maximum capacity of gas that the pipes are able to hold, If you can provide the information it will make good for a discussion, Until then, I have never herd of Gas lines bringing down such a structure so precisely,

Maybe it was special Arab gas, :)