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Re: 45 years prison and hard labor - 24th March 2006

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If that's the case then Nasrallah should get 45 yrs too for collaborating with Syria and Iran!
In this case, All politicians must be on the prison (exept GMA) because all this politicians was allied to Syria (HA,Hariri,Junblat,.....) or Israel (Geagea,....)
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أمن العدل أن يحكم على مواطن تعامل مع عدّو وطنه إجبارياً بسبب الحروب، وأن يكون المجرمون الحقيقيون خارج السجون؟؟؟

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If that's the case then Nasrallah should get 45 yrs too for collaborating with Syria and Iran!
عفو آخ أنا آخ! عفو شو بدّكن؟
كل جرائم القتل بدأً بداني شمعون وعائلته ورشيد كرامه وطوني فرنجية وعائلته وإلخ وإلخ، وصدرت أحكام بالإعدام والأشغال الشاقة وخرج المجرم بريئا ً، فتقارنه اليوم بتعامل حزب الله مع سوريا وإيران؟؟؟
حتى لو كان صحيحاً، مش أحسن ميتعامل مع إسرائيل ويقتل المسيحيّة وبنفس الوقت بيدّعي إنو مسيحيّ
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Default Re: 45 years prison and hard labor - 24th March 2006

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- حكم وجاهي قضى بالاشغال الشاقة لمدة خمس سنوات وتجريده من حقوقه المدنية لاقدامه على التعامل مع العدو الاسرائيلي والتدخل بجرم حجز حرية رقيب اول في الجيش اللبناني.


IF that happened after Taef and the end of the civil war, then I think it's a crime that does deserve to be punished. The rest are **** charges...
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If that's the case then Nasrallah should get 45 yrs too for collaborating with Syria and Iran!
So how did Nasrallah collaborate with Syria? By taking part of the government? Filling his pockets with money? By killing other Lebanese? Hezbollah was only concerned with fighting Israel. Had they wanted to get into all the dirty work during the Syrian interference, they will probably be allied with you right now. Oh and I had no idea Iran was an enemy?? Did they invade us too? Care to enlighten us?
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Abou al layl just reading your username it say it all you still have this weird mentality !!!!
well we all should be verry proud of our "systeme juridique" it give amnesty to all our criminal leaders who killed and rip off our country collaborating with all the occupation that took advantage of our ppl and our land and suddenly find it right to judge poor ppl who had to wotk in israel cz this same dawleh was nt able to protect them !!!!! ya 3ein ya Abou al layl remind me please were did your precious leader get his weapons from and those green jakets you all wear today where did they come from !????? dont tell me the classy shopping center in kaslik ???? .LOOOL...
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Both FPM and Hezbollah were expecting such move from February 14 after the signed ‎agreement between the Tayyar and the Hezb, we knew that they will interfere with the ‎judicial system and make a harsh punishment on anyone so the Lebanese in Israel fear ‎and change their mind about the return. Once again 14 February proving that Restom ‎Ghazele is still here. ‎



What can I say, I must confess that I am beginning to feel jealous, I wish we were so ‎lucky like Hariri and Jomblat and have such “innocent” allies, walla neyelon fikon.‎
yes, I realized that in the past, even former SLA members with blood on their hands got an average of 2 years sentences.
Now after Hizb-FPM agreement, 5 years after liberation, they are trying to deter people from returning....tit-for-tat

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أمن العدل أن يحكم على مواطن تعامل مع عدّو وطنه إجبارياً بسبب الحروب، وأن يكون المجرمون الحقيقيون خارج السجون؟؟؟



عفو آخ أنا آخ! عفو شو بدّكن؟
كل جرائم القتل بدأً بداني شمعون وعائلته ورشيد كرامه وطوني فرنجية وعائلته وإلخ وإلخ، وصدرت أحكام بالإعدام والأشغال الشاقة وخرج المجرم بريئا ً، فتقارنه اليوم بتعامل حزب الله مع سوريا وإيران؟؟؟
حتى لو كان صحيحاً، مش أحسن ميتعامل مع إسرائيل ويقتل المسيحيّة وبنفس الوقت بيدّعي إنو مسيحيّ
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First of all sto pusing propaganda about Dany Shamoun. We all know who killed him and his brother knows that as well. The day he was murdered, his area was full of your masters (Souria el Assad!)

حتى لو كان صحيحاً، مش أحسن ميتعامل مع إسرائي

That's your probelm! el khiyane is the same no matter who you're cooperating with whether it's Israel Syria or Sweden. I dont think people like you should give us lessons in patriotism knowing that you're at the beck and call of Sidi Assad!
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Default Re: 45 years prison and hard labor - 24th March 2006

Abou al Layl enjoy reading the forum from now on, and remember, the one that went to Qordeha and ‎kissed the hand of Hafez el Assad is the one who considered Asad as his master. ‎
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So how did Nasrallah collaborate with Syria? By taking part of the government? Filling his pockets with money? By killing other Lebanese? Hezbollah was only concerned with fighting Israel. Had they wanted to get into all the dirty work during the Syrian interference, they will probably be allied with you right now. Oh and I had no idea Iran was an enemy?? Did they invade us too? Care to enlighten us?
Nasrallah did not collaborate with Syria, Syrians never needed to collaborate with him they just gave him orders that he followed. Yes Syria and Iran do fill his pockets with money and arms, the money and arms Hezbollah receives from Iran surpass all their other revenues and ofcourse Syria is the middleman so everyhting logistically has to pass through Damascus. Hezbollah is only concerned with fighting israel because these were their orders from their masters in Iran and Syria. Its either they fight when their told or no funding.

Actually Iran has always Had Revolutionary guards in the south of lebanon stationed.

Hezbollah is IRans and Syria tool of diplomacy, it is strictly controlled and tailored to the intended objectives

Let me remind you all when the Israeli Grapes of Wrath campaign in April 1996, when then-US Secretary of State Warren Christopher repeatedly shuttled to and from Damascus to negotiate the terms of the April Understanding between Israel and Hezbollah. How come he didnt fly to Lebanon???

Another vivid example was the German-mediated exchange of the bodies of two Israeli soldiers held by Hezbollah for 45 Lebanese prisoners in July 1996. The Israeli-Hezbollah negotiations bore fruit only after German intelligence envoy Berndt Schmidbauer met with Maj. Gen. Ghazi Kanaan, the head of Syrian military intelligence in Lebanon, on May 12, and after Germany released Hafez Kasem Dalkamoni, a member of the Damascus-based PFLP, from prison on June 27 and deported him to Syria.


Syria always monitored arms shipments to Hezbollah from Iran, which is not permitted to airlift arms directly to Lebanon, but must ship them first to Damascus, where they are unloaded and transferred overland to Hezbollah bases in the Beqaa.

Syria has always determined the timing when Hezbollah is allowed to attack
THat on April 2001 after hezbollah attack, Israel didnt even retaliate against Hezbollah. On April 16, the Israeli air force bombed Hezbollah's masters, Syria that day Syrian radar station in the Dahr al-Baidar was bombed

On July 1, Israel launched a second air strike against a Syrian radar position in Lebanon, wounding two Syrian soldiers, two days after a Hezbollah missile attack injured an Israeli soldier.

Please stop your non sense your no better then the SLA. You collaborated with the enemy and became his tool. the only difference is that the people you served were in control.

Here is a Quote from the Collaborator

Hassan Nasrallah

The presence of Syrian forces in Lebanon is a regional and internal necessity for Lebanon and a national obligation for Syria," declared Nasrallah. "Should the Syrian leadership take its army out of Lebanon, we as Lebanese will stand up and tell them they are wrong and are doing something which is not in Lebanon's interest.

Yet he dares to say NO TO FOREIGN INTERFERENCE

what a hypocryte
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Default Re: 45 years prison and hard labor - 24th March 2006

Abou al Layl going through the forum and reading your posts I couldn't help noticing ‎your continuous classification of ppl of being Syrian Collaborators. ‎
In case you forgot this picture we didn't and i allow myself to post it here so you can ‎save us some time from replying.‎
Since the thread is about collaborators with Israel I wish we can include every person ‎who collaborated with them not only the southerns.‎
Now to reply to the thread i want to draw the attention on the fact that even the ‎‎"Cooperation Paper" signed between HA and FPM referred to a re-trial of these ppl, ‎each person taken as a separate case and convicted accordingly.‎
The case you are referring couldn't be generalized since we don't know the ‎circumstances of that specific case. But as I noticed each sentence wasn't more than 5 ‎years for various charges we don't know the nature. The whole period could be joined ‎to be an effective sentence of 5 years, which is acceptable (depending on the charges).‎
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