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[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

So you take bla bla seriously? somebody told someone that somebody told him that someone said so, have you ever heard the expression "telephone arabe"?
It must come from Hadith

As I just said, these sayings have been clearly classified as Strong, moderate ,weak etc.. One must verify the validity of the Hadith he heard before following it.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Saladin

As I just said, these sayings have been clearly classified as Strong, moderate ,weak etc.. One must verify the validity of the Hadith he heard before following it.

When you classify, you are making a judgement. What you consider stong I might consider weak, and vice versa.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Saladin

As I just said, these sayings have been clearly classified as Strong, moderate ,weak etc.. One must verify the validity of the Hadith he heard before following it.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

I'm not talking Sunni/Shiaa here, I'm talking Islamic Hadith. Whoever believes that all 'hadith' can be 100% genuine, needs to visit a Lebanese bakery to put 'hadith' to the test.

Humans who take rubbish for granted are the ones who cause the laws of God great damage. We have ONE holy book, called the Qur'an. Everything else is flooded with errors and is questionable being documented after passing over the heads and out of the mouths of God knows how many people.

In Islam you're supposed to question, not to follow like a blind sheep. When I read some things, I just laugh my head off. Gosh some stuff you come accross must've been written by people high on drugs. They make 'zero' sense and contradict the Qur'an 100%.

I agree. However there are MANY ahadiths that are strong, validated, not controversial and to be seriously taken into consideration or followed.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Saladin

I agree. However there are MANY ahadiths that are strong, validated, not controversial and to be seriously taken into consideration or followed.

So if this is coming from God all mighty why did he not bother to include that in Quran? naswé? hafwé? sakata sahwan?

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Saladin

I agree. However there are MANY ahadiths that are strong, validated, not controversial and to be seriously taken into consideration or followed.

Yes there are, but then again that's a personal classification and judgement.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

When you classify, you are making a judgement. What you consider stong I might consider weak, and vice versa.

Well some extensive studies and researches(Imam Bokhary, Sahih Musllim)have led us to these classifications. Sure there is always room for controversy, however that doesnt mean we should disregard all ahadiths and consider them rubbish.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

So if this is coming from God all mighty why did he not bother to include that in Quran? naswé? hafwé? sakata sahwan?

The Qur'an doesn't say how a prayer has to be done, for example. That's taken from the prophet's teachings. Prayer is one of those things that are core and geniune since everyone saw the prophet and everyone prays the same today, with but a few minor differences.

Then you have hadiths with crazy stuff, you could swear by Zeus that the devils wrote them.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

So if this is coming from God all mighty why did he not bother to include that in Quran? naswé? hafwé? sakata sahwan?

Prophet's Ahadith or Sunna didn't come from God, they are basically the practices the prophet made during his life.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Well some extensive studies and researches(Imam Bokhary, Sahih Musllim)have led us to these classifications. Sure there is always room for controversy, however that doesnt mean we should disregard all ahadiths and consider them rubbish.

No we don't disregard all Hadiths of course, but we can question whether they're genuine or not.