Sectarianism and Identity in Lebanon...Please Explain!

[LubnanALkawi]

im confused right now is Lebanon Phoenician or Syriac or is it an Arab country?

for what i know there is no Phoenician any more and the Assyrian are spread all over from India to Turkey

so you got many identities as Assyrian right? so shreek how can yo u say it was you who made this country?

[shreek]

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

im confused right now is Lebanon Phoenician or Syriac or is it an Arab country?

It's what you want it to be, but do not assign to me a false label and claim it to be my identity.
From when the Constitution was promulgated/enacted in 1926 until 1990 there was no mention that Lebanon was Arab, but suddenly after Taef Lebanon is Arab?

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

for what i know there is no Phoenician any more and the Assyrian are spread all over from India to Turkey

Assyrians (also called Syriacs and Chaldeans) are indigenous to Beth-Nahrain, Syria, southern Turkey, and Lebanon. The Assyrian Missionaries spread the Christian religion to India and Parts of China.

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

so you got many identities as Assyrian right? so shreek how can yo u say it was you who made this country?

My ethnic identity is Suryoye (Syriac), just like the name of my Church, (The Maronite Syriac Antiochene Church), and my Nationality is Lebanese.
It was we who built the Lebanese State, shou lakan.

[LubnanALkawi]

Originally Posted by shreek

It's what you want it to be, but do not assign to me a false label and claim it to be my identity.
From when the Constitution was promulgated/enacted in 1926 until 1990 there was no mention that Lebanon was Arab, but suddenly after Taef Lebanon is Arab?



Assyrians (also called Syriacs and Chaldeans) are indigenous to Beth-Nahrain, Syria, southern Turkey, and Lebanon. The Assyrian Missionaries spread the Christian religion to India and Parts of China.



My ethnic identity is Suryoye (Syriac), just like the name of my Church, (The Maronite Syriac Antiochene Church), and my Nationality is Lebanese.
It was we who built the Lebanese State, shou lakan.

No wonder why this state sucks so much!

what i know about the Assyrian history is that it started from Iraq and the majority of the Assyrians was never from Lebanon!

of course the influence of Assyrian in the region is huge but many other civilizations had their influence in this region.

i believe if we would talk about the origin of the Lebanese land and people i would think more about Canaanist/Phoenician people! and not the Assyrian even though we had big influence from the Assyrian but we did have huge influences from many other civilizations as well.

and yes 'today' i am an Lebanese Arab and the majority of the Lebanese are Arabs...
Arabs are people of different origins and they share the same language.

so if Lebanon is/was a country of Assyrian majority we wouldn't be able to say Lebanon is an Arabic country..

the Lebanese Arabs are not brought from the Arabian Peninsula, we are Arabized and we have been that long enough to call our self Arabs

so yes Lebanon is an Arabic country as the majority of Lebanese are Arabs

TC

[shreek]

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

what i know about the Assyrian history is that it started from Iraq and the majority of the Assyrians was never from Lebanon!

I didn't say that, do not twist words. I simply responded to you where the Syriac People(s) live and have lived, for millenia.

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

of course the influence of Assyrian in the region is huge but many other civilizations had their influence in this region.

Correct.

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

i believe if we would talk about the origin of the Lebanese land and people i would think more about Canaanist/Phoenician people! and not the Assyrian even though we had big influence from the Assyrian but we did have huge influences from many other civilizations as well.

agree, but you cannot refute the fact 95% of the towns/Villages in Lebanon are Syriac words. Heeda bi dil 3an asel el balad.

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

and yes 'today' i am an Lebanese Arab and the majority of the Lebanese are Arabs...
Arabs are people of different origins and they share the same language.

Good luck to you, I am not forcing you to accept a label other than the one you are comfortable with, I am simply stating, as is the usual case with Arabo-Islamists, not to push the Arab label on me or other people who are clearly non-Arab.

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

so if Lebanon is/was a country of Assyrian majority we wouldn't be able to say Lebanon is an Arabic country..
the Lebanese Arabs are not brought from the Arabian Peninsula, we are Arabized and we have been that long enough to call our self Arabs

I feel sorry that you have been Arabised and your Language, History, and Culture all lost. There are many people like you, lal-asaf, who have been Arabsised and Islamised. I understand if you are Muslim to associate yourself with Arabs and Arabism, after all it is the language and culture of your religion (umma).
However, there are millions of Christians in the Middle East, mostly in the Lebanon who do not subscribe to your defeatest rhetoric, and if you are a Christian, even more of a shame.

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

so yes Lebanon is an Arabic country as the majority of Lebanese are Arabs

Lebanon's identity is sui generis, it does not need a label to define it, however, Arabo-Islamists such as yourself are always trying to label the country and the people as Arabs. If we wanted to be Arabised and Islamised we would have done it under the Mamelukes. Keep trying.

[Frisbeetarian]

Originally Posted by shreek

agree, but you cannot refute the fact 95% of the towns/Villages in Lebanon are Syriac words. Heeda bi dil 3an asel el balad.

99% of the Assyrian language derives from Sumerian. Sumerians which we know were half Semites half, Half Akadian (as resonates in the contex of civil and penal laws in Hammurabi's law of code) and were located near in the ancient cities of Ur and Uruk in now days Kuwait.