Sectarianism and Identity in Lebanon...Please Explain!

[FBM]

Originally Posted by shreek

We look different to you, speak different, dress different, drink and eat different to you, that my dear is sufficient distinction.

what?!?! so you don't wear jeans and shirts?!?!?!? And you don't eat mashewe or burgers?!?!? And you don't drink coke ??!?!?!?

[Amooret_Liban]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Some are Arabs some are Phoenecians, others are Persians, Turks, Crusades and Crescades; but they all look similar and have same family names for a strange unscientific reason

Btw, do people from your sect have better hair than those from mine? And if I convert, what will happen to my skin? Would it turn from Shiaa skin to Maronite skin?

What color is Shiaa skin and Maronite skin, please enlighten me and tell me what that is to you...

I thought they were pretty similar, considering the fact that Shiaa Lebanese are least likely to belong to a J1(Arab dna) haplogroup.

[Amooret_Liban]

Originally Posted by shreek

Same family names? Chamoun, Frem, Saliba, etc are Syriac names not Arab names.



We look different to you, speak different, dress different, drink and eat different to you, that my dear is sufficient distinction.

Are you ok? The whole country, the WHOLE region was speaking Aramaic up until about 600 years ago. The influence of Islam has been there longer than 600 years.

Sufficient distinction? LOL, insufficient my dear, you dress differently, drink and eat differently insufficient.

You do not speak differently, you have a different accent of Lebanese. But in the end it is Lebanese....

People like you divide our country.

[Amooret_Liban]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

the druze and the sunnis are not there yet, not that all of them are like that, the leaders of their tribes have not broken free yet.

This is like pre liberated Lebanon (when Lebanon was officially declared a state). During the Ottoman rule, Druze and Sunnis were in charge. They were given great power by the Ottomans.

[Amooret_Liban]

Originally Posted by shreek

what's so bad about it? I like the sectarian system.

7abibe, Lebanon needs to become a Secular state. The sectarian system is obviously NOT working :)

In case you do not know...

Secularity (adjective form secular) is the state of being separate from religion.[1] Despite occasional confusion, secularism is not necessarily synonymous with atheism nor agnosticism,---> it is instead the belief that religion and authority should be separate.<-------

A secular state is a concept of secularism, whereby a state or country is officially neutral in matters of religion, neither supporting nor opposing any particular religious beliefs or practices. A secular state also treats all its citizens equally regardless of religion, and does not give preferential treatment for a citizen from a particular religion over other religions. Most often it has no state religion or equivalent



Soooo we should rule with love for our Nation and religion is a private thing and in Lebanon having so many sects ruling us is obviously only going to lead to a complex system that may not satisfy every sect....what does religion have to do with running a country? Or with the economy? Almost all successful Western countries are Secular such as America...because they focus on the country, not religions.

[Amooret_Liban]

Originally Posted by FBM

what?!?! so you don't wear jeans and shirts?!?!?!? And you don't eat mashewe or burgers?!?!? And you don't drink coke ??!?!?!?

Lol...I don't drink Coke, they send millions of dollars to Israel each year :) Drink Pepsi they are neutral in international affairs ;)
Plus it tastes better ;p

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Amooret_Liban

Lol...I don't drink Coke, they send millions of dollars to Israel each year :) Drink Pepsi they are neutral in international affairs ;)
Plus it tastes better ;p

lah! Pay Each Penny to Save Isreal

Anyways the problem is the media! If the media stops showing the leaders as secterian leaders then the problem would be half as bad...

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by shreek

I believe my sect is superior to all other sects shou lakan.
We created Lebanon, it's ours, the rest are visitors / invaders.

It seems you know nothing about the genetic makeup of the Lebanese. 3a kell 7al Muslims are here to stay. Go build your Christian state in Bsharre.

[Robin Hood]

Originally Posted by TripolySunni

We Educated Muslims don't even consider ourselves a sect, Thus I ain't sectarian and I choose where I stand no does that for me.

I though Saad Hariri guy were educated.

[shreek]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Chamoun is also a Mulsim family name. And Saliba is Arabic. Which leaves us with Frem, is that related to cars? :D

Chamoun is not Muslim. If there are Muslims its only because they were originally Christian Syriac but were forcibly converted to Islam. Saliba is Not Arabic, typical Arabo-Islamist like you ignorant of the etymology of the name. Ever heard of Mar Efrem? He is a Syriac Saint, this is where Frem comes from.
DO i need to keep educating you? Is the Koran the only thing you read??

Originally Posted by Dalzi

No, not sufficient, all that you've mentioned here is based on 'choices'. I could wear speak eat and drink anything anytime to become someone else. However, you can't change your genes to resemble our splendid creation

No you can't, as a Muslim you can't drink Alcohol, nor eat Pork, nor eat non-Halal Food. Hej tfalsef 3alayna.

Originally Posted by Dalzi

You're joking right? :D Multiple user? :D Dry Ice? Wallah zalmino?

Truth hurts I know, try to find any reasoning you can.....