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Default 15th November 2008

well 2day while i on a trip with my Friends in Ghazieh, we were going on a Highway and i saw something i thought i'd never see in Lebanon so i grabbed my phone and was lucky enough to get a pic of it

today was windy and it was spinning dam fast...



guess some Lebanese do believe in Wind Power
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Default 16th November 2008

haha leik il ti3tir, danish engineers made studies in lebanon and said wind energy would work greatly in our dear country, but look what we took their advice for
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i read that we have 2 possible sites that were studied in lebanon that would be ready for geothermal
1. in sammakiye in akkar
2. off the coast of tyre
http://www.isesco.org.ma/ISESCO_Tech...ad%20Houri.pdf
the site above has more info for the geothermal sites i cited, if u want
does anyone have info if there's any wind turbines or wind farms in lebanon, i never saw any in all the 16 years i lived there, but does anyone know iza fi maybe in windy places more than 8Km/h speed like il arz and maybe bil jabal that could be ready for wind farms
Yes, I already read this very interesting report from Mr. Houri and I think this is the only reference about geothermal energy in Lebanon on internet

EDL launched a project for a wind farm in Bekaa but I don't know how many Megawatts...
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Default 19th November 2008

Here are the only informations I have about the Janneh Dam (caza of Jbeil). It was supposed to be built since some time with:
- a production of 60 MW of electricity (4% of the current production capacity in Lebanon)
- a stock of 30 millions m³ of water (4 times bigger than the Chabrouh dam achieved in 2007).

I got those informations from a brochure of Sogreah, a french company which made the study about the Janneh dam. But until now, it seems the construction didn't go further than this study.

Does someone have more info about this important construction and if the situation is blocked, is it possible our MPs from Jbeil do something to accelerate the achievment of this dam?

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Sogreah: la lettre internationale n°14 (Novembre 2006)

Un projet de construction de barrage est né avec la troisième ressource en eau du Liban, le Nahr Ibrahim et le site de Janneh permettant le stockage de quantités importantes d’eau (30 millions de m³ d'eau derrière un barrage d'une hauteur maximale de près de 80 m).

Pour garantir la viabilité et la faisabilité techniques du projet, puis entreprendre ensuite les études détaillées finales de construction d’un barrage et d’un lac de retenue sur le site Janneh, diverses études étaient nécessaires, notamment, du fait de la perméabilité du terrain.

Sogreah fournit une assistance technique auprès de la société Khatib & Alami.

Ce projet a pour principaux objectifs :
- produire de l'électricité (puissance et capacité obtenues grâce à une chute de plus de 300 m de haut);
- alimenter en eau potable des zones côtières de Jubail, Keserwan Caza, et du nord de l'agglomération de Beyrouth ;
- irriguer de nouvelles régions, si cela est réalisable d'un point de vue économique.

Pierre Cochet, Branche Eau Energie Environnement
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if we implant wind turbines all over the deserted and abandoned "Jered" i think the electricity would be sufficient for all Lebanon and we can sell part of the wind power to our lovely neighbors! and we can finally get rid of the fuel reactors in Zouk!
plus some dams on the main rivers we would actually never run out of electricity and save some $$$ to repay the debt! it would be a nice investment
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if we implant wind turbines all over the deserted and abandoned "Jered" i think the electricity would be sufficient for all Lebanon and we can sell part of the wind power to our lovely neighbors! and we can finally get rid of the fuel reactors in Zouk!
plus some dams on the main rivers we would actually never run out of electricity and save some $$$ to repay the debt! it would be a nice investment
it would be great, amd look what you wrote is optimistic and you adressed only 2 renewable sources
imagine if solar water heating was implemented(it's mandatory for every household in spain and israel) and we have 300 sunny days a year in our country which is great fro solar energy!
what we need is the gov. to put forth incentives to consumers and tax subsidies for people who buy solar panels and save electricity! theyre doing in syria already
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If one can figure out how to harness my little chldren's energy it could benefit mankind. Where do they get all their energy from, no body knows. Their mother was lazy and I am not exactly a dance-a-minute person.
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If one can figure out how to harness my little chldren's energy it could benefit mankind. Where do they get all their energy from, no body knows. Their mother was lazy and I am not exactly a dance-a-minute person.
Strap them to a cardio machine, devise a way to transform the mechanical energy they produce into electricity via use of transistor and batteries to store. A one two punch, slimming down and producing free electricity for home consumption.
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It think wind turbines and hydroelectric installations on El-Assi and Litani rivers would be more than enough in order to cover our electrical household consumption needs.
Geothermal installations would be a great idea to warm up groups of houses in winter. Great wood/mazout consumption reduction!
But such installations are a bit difficult and expensive for locals to accomplish alone. Government should take care of it. Or at least take care of managing it. Back here in Switzerland they're really improving this technology and it's expanding like wildfire!
Injecting huge volumes of water not very deep underground and then pumping it up after it would have reached needed temperature! It then circulates across already put in place installations between a group of 5 to ten houses.
Few bucks put at first. But lifelong savings gained! Sum up all the mazout each family pays for every winter!



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It think wind turbines and hydroelectric installations on El-Assi and Litani rivers would be more than enough in order to cover our electrical household consumption needs.
Geothermal installations would be a great idea to warm up groups of houses in winter. Great wood/mazout consumption reduction!
But such installations are a bit difficult and expensive for locals to accomplish alone. Government should take care of it. Or at least take care of managing it. Back here in Switzerland they're really improving this technology and it's expanding like wildfire!
Injecting huge volumes of water not very deep underground and then pumping it up after it would have reached needed temperature! It then circulates across already put in place installations between a group of 5 to ten houses.
Few bucks put at first. But lifelong savings gained! Sum up all the mazout each family pays for every winter!



exactly! thank you! the return on investement is great for renewable energy! for example, solar panels might be thought to be expensive, but compare California with Lebanon for a minute.
California's citizens that bought solar panels and installed them pay no electricty(free electricity after they installed the panels) from may to november and pay about half of what people pay in the winter.
On the other hand, we have much more sunny days in Lebanon(300/365),much more saving!
and for the lebanese refineries' employees, they could take their skills and be traiend to maintain solar panels, build wind farms(dahr il baydar would be a great wind farm) and locate geothermal possible sites...
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