la femme libanaise: une citoyenne 2nde classe??????????????

[Anny]

I know why they did those stupid laws back then and why they still existing. The first reason is that many women in Leb got married to Palestinians and they dont want to give them a nationality for him and the kids. They didnt want at the time to neutralise Palestenians, but that doesnt make much sense since we still have the same number of people living in Lebanon and those kids who have a mother who is lebanese and were born in Lebanon will probably live in Lebanon for the rest of their lives, so in my oppinion, they deserve the lebanese citizen and their father as well. If the governement change the present laws, it will of course help more than doing any harm. The number of people in Lebanon will not change since those who dont have a lebanese father are still living in Lebanon but have difficulties to fit into the socity and by that I only mean governemental paper and ID papers (per example, fifficulties to get a visa to travel into another country for a kid who has a palestinian father and a lebanese mother)

Anyway, some laws should be changed since we are now in 2008 not in 1970...

[lady_forever]

Originally Posted by Anny

I know why they did those stupid laws back then and why they still existing. The first reason is that many women in Leb got married to Palestinians and they dont want to give them a nationality for him and the kids. They didnt want at the time to neutralise Palestenians, but that doesnt make much sense since we still have the same number of people living in Lebanon and those kids who have a mother who is lebanese and were born in Lebanon will probably live in Lebanon for the rest of their lives, so in my oppinion, they deserve the lebanese citizen and their father as well. If the governement change the present laws, it will of course help more than doing any harm. The number of people in Lebanon will not change since those who dont have a lebanese father are still living in Lebanon but have difficulties to fit into the socity and by that I only mean governemental paper and ID papers (per example, fifficulties to get a visa to travel into another country for a kid who has a palestinian father and a lebanese mother)

Anyway, some laws should be changed since we are now in 2008 not in 1970...

Are you sure about that????I know many Palestinians that got Leb nationality and many others just to vote for the party they wish them to...maybe i am wrong but this is what i have heard and known

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by lebneniye

What about Lebanese men conferring their nationality to their non-national wives?

It was a joke, but since you've asked this question, no to the wife, "mesh 2asliyye", only the kids. No one tells them to marry non-Lebanese .

[suomynona]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Children yes, but husband no. He doesn't have Lebanese blood running throught his veins. Mesh 2asle.

1. Define "Lebanese blood"

2. What about immigrants?

I would agree to some extent if some reasonable rules are applied: for example, if the spouse has a right to claim the citizenship after living for a while in the country (having another connection to the country than just being the spouse of a citizen or the mother of their children).

Also, to protect a nation from people acquiring the citizenship by abusing these rules, nations could have laws that for example tie the citizenship to the relationship OR normal immigration laws applied to the individual. With such a rule a person who gets separated from a legal union loses the citizenship unless he/she would have satisfied the requirements otherwise.

But I think the "Lebanese blood" argument as you stated it is void of any value.