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Default Re: kids street - 16th March 2006

Instead of focusing on arresting and throwing this man in jail, shouldn't we be focusing on getting these kids into school and providing them with a future?

Unfortunately I don't think there's anything we can do for these people before we establish a proper country. They need free schools with a good level of education. Furthermore we need a law that says school is obligatory for these children. Then we need a law for children rights and if it already exists then we need to start applying it.
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Default Re: kids street - 16th March 2006

ur right coralie!
once again wheres the gov! for a certain period of time those kids were taken off the streets, then once again things went to what they used to be!
i dont get it! why cant we gather the kids in the same region and take them to school! they wont cost the gov a lot! the'll be learning and not putting their lives in the daily danger of being hit by a car!
our probs os that we have laws that we dont even bother to respecT!
and on the other hand, the parents of those kids should be asked not to allow their kids to go to the streets knowing that the're the ones sending them!
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Instead of focusing on arresting and throwing this man in jail, shouldn't we be focusing on getting these kids into school and providing them with a future?

Unfortunately I don't think there's anything we can do for these people before we establish a proper country. They need free schools with a good level of education. Furthermore we need a law that says school is obligatory for these children. Then we need a law for children rights and if it already exists then we need to start applying it.
i was nt focusing on arresting this man (it was a human reaction in the moment) if you dont mind of course !!!!!
even tho i think he should be thrown in jail then mayb then the kid will get finaly his one life chance to get an education . i know what im talking about and i dont need lessons from you thats for sure . i worked for years with this kind of problems and i know that parents are the main problem for these poor kids cause most of the time they refuse to let go their kids as they are a good source of income for the family and we had to battle hard to keep some of them off the street !!! unfortunatly we have no one in the goverments to back up a good law to protect those kids like i said in a previous post and like Inanna said above the kids were for sosmetime away and the goverment promised to take care of this humanitarian problem but like all the promises as long as it its not profitable it did nt last long and here again we see the kids on the street !!!
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even tho i think he should be thrown in jail then mayb then the kid will get finaly his one life chance to get an education.
And how will throwing the man in jail give the kid a chance for education if you don't have a backup plan ready for him? Is the law providing good free schools? And more importantly, is the law obliging kids to go to schools up to a certain age. Until then putting the man in jail will only put the kid in more confusion in my opinion.
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unfortunatly we have no one in the goverments to back up a good law to protect those kids like i said in a previous post and like Inanna said above the kids were for sosmetime away and the goverment promised to take care of this humanitarian problem but like all the promises as long as it its not profitable it did nt last long and here again we see the kids on the street !!!
And that's why I said there's nothing we can do until we establish a proper corruption-free country.
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Default Street Children and Child Slavery - 20th March 2007

What is the situation concerning street children and child slavery in Lebanon? Has the government prepared any programmes to tacke the issue?

Here is an article for a start:


LEBANON: Street children - victims of organised crime




BEIRUT, 3 July 2006 (IRIN) - In Beirut, you can find street children at almost every major traffic intersection, washing car windows, selling chewing gum or begging. Their dirty little hands tap the car window while their bright eyes look into yours in search of signs compassion. Samir is only 12 years old, but living on the streets has made him grow up quickly. Palestinian of origin, his story is a sad –but all too common – one. “I’ve been begging since I was eight,” he said. “My mother left when I was five, and now my father beats me and makes me beg for money.” Samir is only one of thousands of children eking out a living on the streets of Lebanon’s cities.

“The number of children working on the streets is difficult to determine,” said Watfa. “Anyone who gives you a definite number would be fooling you.”

Some of these children are the victims of coercion an organised crime. “Many children are forced to work as beggars, and even prostitutes, by organised gangs, which pay them with cigarettes or drugs,” said Jannot Sanah, a psychological supervisor at the Lebanese Evangelical Institute for Social Work and Development.

The institute is one of very few in Lebanon devoted to the issue of street children and the only one working in cooperation with the social affairs ministry.

Limited government role

According to one social affairs official who wished to remain anonymous, the ministry plays a limited role in combating the trend. “Our role is preventive,” he explained. “We try to mingle with the children and attract them to our centres for recreation and education, rather than leaving them on the streets where they are subject to drugs and crime.” He added: “When street children are caught by the police and taken to police stations, our representatives work on moving them to specialised institutes.”

Nevertheless, a lack of resources has ruled out the presence of social representatives at all the country’s police stations. “Security personnel, after making sure the child has no criminal record, contact a specialised institute to take care of the child,” explained one interior ministry official.

According to Sanah, children are also sometimes taken to juvenile court, “where they can be sentenced to spend time at institutes like ours”. Children under 17 can also be sent to juvenile centres or special juvenile sections in prisons.

A lack of funding

The Evangelical Institute takes in children between the ages of three and 18 and aims to provide them with basic education, shelter, healthcare and general protection. Sanah pointed out that most of the children at the institute are Iraqi, Syrian, Palestinian or Kurdish, or have a Lebanese mother and a non-Lebanese father. “Very few are Lebanese,” she said, adding that roughly 90 percent of them lack official identification of any kind.

Ever since Lebanon ratified the International Convention on the Rights of the Child in 1991, Sanah added, the UN has also occasionally sent the institute refugee children for care. “There was one Syrian girl who we took care of for three years before the UN managed to find a home for her in Australia,” said Sanah. “We currently have an Iraqi child, also sent to us by the UN.”

According to statistics, the institute sheltered 239 children in 2004 and 172 last year. From the beginning of 2006, the centre has received around 90 children, 60 of whom have chosen to remain at the centre. Sanah attributed the drop to “the security situation and tightening security measures on the Syria-Lebanon border, where many of these children and gangs come from”.

Despite its good work, however, the institute – which is financed primarily through donations – is facing hard times. Promised monies from the social affairs ministry have been several months late, said Sanah, which has resulted in a major funding shortfall.

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no unfortunatly like said in the article th goverment is not doing much they "lack funds" ... yeah and we should believe that !
during the appogee of reconstruction billions were spent on buildings i had a chat during this golden reconstraction period (if i recall well it was chi 5 years ago) with a nun responsable for 180 kids . those kids were left by divorced parents or orphins this convent is trying its best to keep them away from the street life . the range of age was from 5 to 18 . she told me that in the morning she went to the minister of social affairs for the 10000 time to ask for support all they gav her is 1$ per kid and per day . 1$ per kid can you imagine that ? 1$ for 3 meal per day + cloths ...... while our goverments were spending billions on "reconstraction" hail hail hail our reconstruction is it helping those kids ? is it giving them a tiny tyni chance to survive decently until they can be strong and old enough to work ? no stella all we have is words and empty promises whenever any social association knock at the doors of any ministery !

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This is a great thread. I have been trying to look for people who can help for a while now. However, I couldn't get anywhere with the government. This is one of the saddest situations that we have and quite honestly, I don't believe that this government will even do anything about it.
With people who actually care about this, we can do something about it because noone else will.
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This is a great thread. I have been trying to look for people who can help for a while now. However, I couldn't get anywhere with the government. This is one of the saddest situations that we have and quite honestly, I don't believe that this government will even do anything about it.
With people who actually care about this, we can do something about it because noone else will.
Thanks for your input!

What about the civil organizations and NGOs? The article also mentioned one, and the UN funds? Is there enough aid orgs. and they just lack funds, or there isnt enough institutional background neither?

So it seems you can not rely on the government concerning any help, right? What about the Social Ministry /dont know its proper name in Lebanon/ they dont have any programmes or strategies?

And what is your initiative exactly, could you please tell us more about it?

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This is a great thread. I have been trying to look for people who can help for a while now. However, I couldn't get anywhere with the government. This is one of the saddest situations that we have and quite honestly, I don't believe that this government will even do anything about it.
With people who actually care about this, we can do something about it because noone else will.
You are right Mich©, if the pple who care wont do anything about it...then no one will......and it is the same situation for street kids all over the world.

Many of these kids get written off as having no future....and so nothing is invested into them.
The issue is a complex one which requires multi faceted approaches.
I don't feel institutions or prisons are appropriate answers, as these systems lead to institutionalization, which is a whole new level of abuse and rejection.
There are some good organizations assisting in this area....but the government needs to play a major role in provision of support services governed by law, funding, prevention and education of parents and the wider community.

At the end of the day.....parents retain rights over their children-even when they are abusing them, only in severe cases, is that authority really questioned.
This is where the community has a large role to play...from teachers to doctors, friends, relatives and even strangers.
The more that child abuse is reflected in society as being unacceptable, the better the opportunities are for those young people who are trapped without a voice or advocate.


P.S Has anyone read "A Child Called It" by Dave Pelzer??? He actually recieved the Young Person of the Year award... i didnt even know such an award existed till i learned about him and his story.
Its a pretty hard hitting book....but incredible if u can handle it.
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I was just thinking about that subject on my way to work! In fact, I met a boy and a girl, sitting on the floor and talking! The boy was holding the lottery carnet while, in the other hand, he ws holding a cigarette! What makes me really sad it's that he's not elder than 8 years! Maybe less! I wanted to stop, to tell him that it was harmful, that it wasn't good to smoke at a small age like this, especially with dirty hand! I don't know what stopped me, but I wish I had too much more money! I would have given him an important sum to let him stop and go and clean himself!! I wonder where are the responsibles of such cases! I don't have a single idea, but I'm still under the influence of that morning view!
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