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. And how naive could one get to want to show an Israeli what israel has done, as if he doesn't know The problem with Arabs and what brought them to what they are, is their stupidity before their ignorance.
And how naive could one get to "think" that everyone knows what Israel has done.
And how naive could one get to believe that a french like Elmaleh or any israeli has access to unbiased reporting portraying the wrong doing of Israel.
Do your research before stating fallacies. And it could do you a lot of good to actually get out and talk with people who do not share your viewpoint.
Granted, You do sum it up on your own; ignorance, stupidity and I'll add arrogance to the list.

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Let's stop the ********. "just being a mere supporter of israel" is NOT enough. The whole campaign started by areport of alManar accusing elmaleh of serving in IDF.
They didn't start the campaign against him for being a supporter of Israel. Just as they didn't report against Aznavour for being a friend of Israel nor call for the boycott of his concert organized just recently in lebanon.
Just as they never launched a campaign against ridley scott movies, or s stalone, or sandler's or devito or etc... who are supporters of Israel too.
Does he hold an Israeli passport or not?
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And how naive could one get to "think" that everyone knows what Israel has done.
How stupid could one get to think that this man himself doesn't know what Israel has done.

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And how naive could one get to believe that a french like Elmaleh or any israeli has access to unbiased reporting portraying the wrong doing of Israel. Do your research before stating fallacies. And it could do you a lot of good to actually get out and talk with people who do not share your viewpoint.
Amusing... Have you done your research on Elmaleh and what he knows and doesn't know? lol How do you know that poor Israeli who's studied political science doesn't know Israel?

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Granted, You do sum it up on your own; ignorance, stupidity and I'll add arrogance to the list.
Your post speaks for itself. Your brain in leaking.

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but he is here as welcome as a holocaust denialist is welcome in israel..
too far fetched RedPhoenix...
let's be logical & reasonnable here.
Let's say he is here as wecome as an anti-Israeli' organisation is welcomed in Israel.
And guess what? they are.
Hint: HRW.

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b4 some lebanese call this intellectual terrorism they should think what if.. it was their darn sister who died thx to the israeli army's mass murders instead of another shia..

i'm up to my neck with some of my fellow christians being so insensitive and misguided wou a7san ma kabir el kilmeh hala2.
don't make it a sectarian issue.
Sure some people are simply insensitive and don't give a **** about those who suffered from the ISraeli's occupation, just like some don't give a **** about those who suffered from the syrian occupation.

It is normal that some might get offended by Gad's political stances but there are means to express your dissatisfaction that would better serve your message than falsely accusing the dude or boycott.
It all depends of the image you want to send to the world and the lessons you want to teach the new generation... And we are failling badly...


And PS: Talking about intellectual terrorism is plain stupid. Just a propaganda catch phrase.
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too far fetched RedPhoenix...
let's be logical & reasonnable here.
Let's say he is here as wecome as an anti-Israeli' organisation is welcomed in Israel.
And guess what? they are.
Hint: HRW.
'welcome' and 'allowed' are two different things, i was very clear about this in my original posts regarding his legal rights to be here

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don't make it a sectarian issue.
Sure some people are simply insensitive and don't give a **** about those who suffered from the ISraeli's occupation, just like some don't give a **** about those who suffered from the syrian occupation.
i am not making it, it is a secterian issue, this is a secterian country and we live it 24/7, i dont need to ignore it i am ashamed of it. and yes others are bullies but it doesnt make my statement any less valid.


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It is normal that some might get offended by Gad's political stances but there are means to express your dissatisfaction that would better serve your message than falsely accusing the dude or boycott.
It all depends of the image you want to send to the world and the lessons you want to teach the new generation... And we are failling badly...
that is the debatable matter, falsely accusing is not acceptable, boycotting him is, the rest is up for discussion and i have no love lost personally for someone who is proud of the IDF.
if he wants me to remove my personal boycott to his show, he can go visit the south and the destruction left by israel as a good will gesture of openess when he arrives here b4 his show so that at least he sees both sides of the story

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And PS: Talking about intellectual terrorism is plain stupid. Just a propaganda catch phrase.
yes indeed it is.

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and let me add, i posted here about this some time ago, i dont care about all this matter, but if the guy is staunchly against us then a call for boycott is in order, that is a matter of debate but life isn't black and white.

if he can legally come here so be it he can legally come.

i'm not making a big fuss out of it, but those who are defending him like he is the idol of free speech are and those who are demonizing him are doing the same also.

i will not hide it to u, i'm open and westernized but anyone who proves to me that he is a blind sighted zionist who is not open hearted is on my black list of boycott.

i dont like propaganda nor hippy attitudes, that's just me and everybody is different it goes without saying

i'm talkin about the 'if' situations here, but as i always said i'm not that versed into this Gad case to give out an open shut verdict
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Does anyone know the name of the Committee against normalization with Israel in Lebanon? maybe a website or something?
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Does anyone know the name of the Committee against normalization with Israel in Lebanon? maybe a website or something?
It's called LIBAN, the Lebanese-Israeli Brotherhood Against Non-violence!
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It's called LIBAN, the Lebanese-Israeli Brotherhood Against Non-violence!
no i dont think thats it lol. the committee i am talking about is against normalization with israel so akkid it's not with any type of brotherhood ;) they are more into boycotting goods, preventing normal relations, or zionists from coming to lebanon etc... like Maleh.
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no i dont think thats it lol. the committee i am talking about is against normalization with israel so akkid it's not with any type of brotherhood ;) they are more into boycotting goods, preventing normal relations, or zionists from coming to lebanon etc... like Maleh.
I was being ironic: the fact that they are a "brotherhood" against peace, is to show that some people have more interests in making war against each other! Hence, they agree more than they disagree on things (they both want war)!

For the same reasons Israelis don't want peace with the Palestinians, some Lebanese don't want peace with Israel, others don't want peace with Syria, etc. Of course there are other examples of irrational "alliances" (Geagea-Joumblatt, Jouzou-Sfeir, March14 Christians-Hariri/Fatah al-Islam, etc.)
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I was being ironic: the fact that they are a "brotherhood" against peace, is to show that some people have more interests in making war against each other! Hence, they agree more than they disagree on things (they both want war)!

For the same reasons Israelis don't want peace with the Palestinians, some Lebanese don't want peace with Israel, others don't want peace with Syria, etc. Of course there are other examples of irrational "alliances" (Geagea-Joumblatt, Jouzou-Sfeir, March14 Christians-Hariri/Fatah al-Islam, etc.)
O MY GOD u know, it's funny but when i read it the first time the against non-violence didnt strike me as weird at all ! I thought eno thats a real committee, i didnt even notice that it was two negatives which makes it a positive actually hehe...so anyway what about the ani normalization comittee, any ideas how i can get info on them? i searched the net, found nothing. But I am sure they exist! They wanted to sue the beiteddine festival i think.
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