Gad el Maleh show cancelled !

[tae]

Originally Posted by nuknuk

Biden is a self declared Zionist. Not only did he come to Lebanon, but they also blocked the traffic which caused people to get stuck in their cars for over 6 hours that day.

Let's not be hypocrites here. It would have been better to let the guy come, then stage peaceful demonstrations against his positions.

This is an acceptable idea, it would have allowed each of us express his thoughts, especially that some parties in Lebanon are more tolerant to Israelis than others but stopping the whole thing before it starts is not a bad idea either.

[False Morel]

For the ones arguing about pro-Israeli politicians visiting Lebanon, ex- and current pro-Israeli politicians in Lebanon, well, this is politics.
In politics, foreign policies are based on national interests and diplomatic relations. Lebanon can't simply fight the world if the world deals with Israel as an independent country. And still there are red lines that can't be crossed and limits that can't be avoided! In politics one should stay as much diplomatic as possible.

When Rice comes visit Lebanon in the middle of a war waged by Israel on it, and then goes to Israel the next day and makes some horrific announcement, this is the ultimate humiliation Lebanon can get!
And yes, as to those Lebanese politicians, if the Lebanese people had some brains and balls, those mercenaries should be rotting in Jail right now!

Anyway, this is not a political case here! And has nothing to do with politics as well.
For simply, Lebanon's enmity with Israel isn't a political one in the first place!
This is about moral values, basic social principles, and eventually community's survival.

And then who's the hypocrite here!
A Lebanese citizen who boycotts a comedian's show because this very comedian supports the enemy of his very existence, or that comedian who's supposed to be a messenger of peace and inspiration, and who's supposed to put a smile on his audience faces, and at the same time shows his support and sympathies for a criminal country!

Imagine a French citizen listening to the news whereas they report that Gad guy performing in Lebanon! Wouldn't he burst in laughter for the fact that the stage full of Lebanese audience in Lebanon at the most famous yearly festivals there, laughing and having fun time, while that very guy proudly supports the army that murdered their own fellow citizens and nearly destroyed their country just three years ago!

This is how and why Lebanon's image is destroyed.
Min baddo yi2bad hek sha3b iza they can't even unify against a clear enemy, and wont even bother to express their suffering and reach the world to show them the truth and the reality of the ongoing conflict!

Disgusting indeed!
Ma 7ada taleb min 7ada to get a rifle and go fight that country! No body's asking anyone to go fight to remove Israel or free Palestine!
But at least, show some sympathy, and show support to the ones tackling the task, and express your support everywhere and pass some extra minutes in exposing those Israeli's whose atrocities and criminality being covered up by the Western media, and some other few minutes maybe to clarify and refute the misunderstanding hinting we're a bunch of terrorists and death enthusiasts!
If not, at least show some respect to your own community and martyrs and better shut your malfunctioned brain up!

Originally Posted by nuknuk

It would have been better to let the guy come, then stage peaceful demonstrations against his positions.

No body stopped him from coming and obliged him to cancel his shows! He decided to do so.
And yes, it would have been better if he came, so that his shows would have been boycotted! That's the way the Lebanese should behave.
Even as you suggested, peaceful demonstration is a good idea, where some signs could be raised with pictures of 2006 war victims and underneath it, "Is that your definition of entertainment and fun?!" would be written..

However, I assure every seat would have been sold out!

[PhoenixResurrection]

Originally Posted by tae

So you agree that he is active in supporting Israel, at the same time, you don't find a reason why we should boycott him in Lebanon ...
This is so strange !
Please read what you write before posting it, what you're saying is funny

Yes I'm known for my witty sense of humor.

He's not an IDF soldier, just a person with a different opinion then yours...
It's about time we realize that people are entitled to their own opinions and that as much as we disagree with them, they should not be met with loud boycott calls but rather reasonable calls for discussion and dialog.
So yes I believe that instead they should have welcomed Gad to lebanon and invited him to visit the populations, the ruins & destructions caused by the IDF, to see the consequences of Tsahal's acts...
Progress vs. Pettiness...

[PhoenixResurrection]

Originally Posted by False Morel

Imagine a French citizen listening to the news whereas they report that Gad guy performing in Lebanon! Wouldn't he burst in laughter for the fact that the stage full of Lebanese audience in Lebanon at the most famous yearly festivals there, laughing and having fun time, while that very guy proudly supports the army that murdered their own fellow citizens and nearly destroyed their country just three years ago!

French citizens are actually laughing for the diffamation campaign initiated by narrow-minded lebanese citizens...

This is how and why Lebanon's image is destroyed.
Min baddo yi2bad hek sha3b iza they can't even unify against a clear enemy, and wont even bother to express their suffering and reach the world to show them the truth and the reality of the ongoing conflict!

Wow
Gad El maleh is a stand up comedian not a Tsahal soldier. He's not a 'clear enemy' to unify against...
He was supposed to perform a comedy act in lebanon not organize a political pro-israeli conference.

'Lebanon's image is destroyed' by intolerance and stupidity - which usually go in pairs.

You want to defend your cause? defend freedom of speech and freedom of opinion.

But at least, show some sympathy, and show support to the ones tackling the task, and express your support everywhere and pass some extra minutes in exposing those Israeli's whose atrocities and criminality being covered up by the Western media

Practice what you preach!
Well instead of calling for the boycott of Gad El maled you could welcome him in lebanon and invite him for a visit to the devastated villages so you could expose what you are calling for in the quote above.

No body stopped him from coming and obliged him to cancel his shows! He decided to do so.

sure because accusing him of serving in the israeli army is an open invitation!

And yes, it would have been better if he came, so that his shows would have been boycotted! That's the way the Lebanese should behave.

Again he was supposed to perform a stand up comedy show not a political conference. So boycotting his show is simply ridiculous. He is An ARTIST.

[False Morel]

Originally Posted by PhoenixResurrection

French citizens are actually laughing for the diffamation campaign initiated by narrow-minded lebanese citizens...

What defamation?!

Is he a supporter of Israel and the Tsahal or not?
He's a proud one too.

And addressing that through the Lebanese media is the right and normal thing to do! So that the Lebanese would know that fact and normally again boycott his show!

If you're referring to Al Manar's report declaring Maleh an ex-member of the Tsahal, well it's their mistake to refer to non-reliable sources, and they should hold the responsibility for that.

However, the mere fact that he's a supporter of Israel is enough. And to mention it through the media is definitely not defamation of any sort!

Wow
Gad El maleh is a stand up comedian not a Tsahal soldier. He's not a 'clear enemy' to unify against...
He was supposed to perform a comedy act in lebanon not organize a political pro-israeli conference.

'Lebanon's image is destroyed' by intolerance and stupidity - which usually go in pairs.

Ya3ne di2 3al khashab! That's how you got what I wrote!

Which part of Israel not being a political enemy didn't you get? And of course Maleh isn't that enemy we should unify against!
But he's a supporter of that enemy. And which part of the Lebanese boycotting his show because of his sympathy to Israel didn't you get?!

Do you know what's the meaning of a whole nation being in enmity with you?

You want to defend your cause? defend freedom of speech and freedom of opinion.

It's not my cause!! It should be ours! And every one's too, every intellectual and free thinker of this world.

In the personal aspect, I'm not fond of this causes thing!
A cause here and a cause there, human rights aren't respected here and heavily violated there, that dictator should be hanged up and that other one buried alive, those poor oppressed there should helped out, those dying of starvation here should be given food, etc...
Actually, I could care less. I'm against the so called democracy, against any beliefs, against nationalism, and against every system and ideology humans practiced so far!

Despite all that, I consider the Palestinian cause an exception worth standing for! For simply it differs than all other "cases"!
Throughout history, human miseries were always in some way to ultimately be the fault of the wronged! But in this case, to remove a whole nation with all its different communities and constituent and bring in mostly a new one and declare that land a new country, plus in the way it was done, is definitely considered something unbearable even by the "finest a**holes" around, and definetly not the fault of the wronged by any mean.

What if then it concerns you and your nation directly! Specially that all what needed to be done on your behalf, is much simpler and even free to give but much more effective than holding a rifle and go risk your life and abandon any career to go fight! All you have to do is to bring that cause into spotlight in an act to counter-attack that brainwashing propagandist media war against anyone and anything against Israel! Show your support and respect! Self-respect in this case before any other..

By calling that my cause, and defending a supporter of that brutal regime to come perform an artistic act in Lebanon, first shows your hypocrisy and inferiority complex (an even more complicated form of it), and secondly shows the ultimate disrespect to your nation and fellow citizens and to a righteous cause that's supposed to be yours before anyone else!
The disturbing thing of that all though, is that you and some others failing to comprehend how come is your stand described as such!

Practice what you preach!
Well instead of calling for the boycott of Gad El maled you could welcome him in lebanon and invite him for a visit to the devastated villages so you could expose what you are calling for in the quote above.

I already hinted, it were best if he came to Lebanon and boycotted! That would the best message delivered to get him focus more on whom he supports and what believes in, in a hope that he thinks the propaganda he's been fed with over!

[Red Phoenix]

all this self flagelation and defence of that guy is misplaced.

he might be no direct enemy and legally welcome to come here

i have no personal beef with him if his case is legal.

but he is here as welcome as a holocaust denialist is welcome in israel..

so walla defamation walla counter defamation walla democracy walla ballout, it's not about any of that

b4 some lebanese call this intellectual terrorism they should think what if.. it was their darn sister who died thx to the israeli army's mass murders instead of another shia..

i'm up to my neck with some of my fellow christians being so insensitive and misguided wou a7san ma kabir el kilmeh hala2.

like him or not, he will get boycotted cuz of his political views and a large percentage of the population does not welcome his visit.

get me a holocaust revisionist to go be welcomed with open arms in israel and perhaps i can help u out defend a funny comedian who at the same time is proud of the soldiers who massacred our children.

keep it clear, logical and simple ppl

and yeah dont forget to keep in mind respect for national pride while u are at it.

i like stand up comedy as much as the next guy, me the french educated lebanese secular christian of western culture and middle class world, but after i now heard that this pretty boy is proud of the ISF i will not only boycott him but make fun of him also in a heartbeat for being for world's first french fascist stand up comedian...

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by False Morel

And then who's the hypocrite here!
A Lebanese citizen who boycotts a comedian's show because this very comedian supports the enemy of his very existence, or that comedian who's supposed to be a messenger of peace and inspiration, and who's supposed to put a smile on his audience faces, and at the same time shows his support and sympathies for a criminal country!

I wonder how long the lebanese will continue to enjoy hiding what they know is a fact. The greatest enemy to the south lies within. Those who were clubbing, swimming and cheering while Israel was bombing would definitely have no problem being the lowlives they are for the sake of comedy. I say we put wishes to action and send them all to hell in pieces with the loser.

Imagine a French citizen listening to the news whereas they report that Gad guy performing in Lebanon! Wouldn't he burst in laughter for the fact that the stage full of Lebanese audience in Lebanon at the most famous yearly festivals there, laughing and having fun time, while that very guy proudly supports the army that murdered their own fellow citizens and nearly destroyed their country just three years ago!

They wouldn't laugh at all, they already know what they sowed. As if Lebanon, the prostitute, didn't sleep with France in the past just as it is sleeping with Israel now.

If not, at least show some respect to your own community and martyrs and better shut your malfunctioned brain up!

If they don't have respect for themselves, you can't ask them to have respect for even a fly.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

I wonder how long the lebanese will continue to enjoy hiding what they know is a fact. The greatest enemy to the south lies within. Those who were clubbing, swimming and cheering while Israel was bombing would definitely have no problem being the lowlives they are for the sake of comedy. I say we put wishes to action and send them all to hell in pieces with the loser.

history has taught us that u can't fix one form of social insanity with another form of social insanity hehe

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by PhoenixResurrection

Yes I'm known for my witty sense of humor.

Ouuu I'm impressed.

He's not an IDF soldier, just a person with a different opinion then yours...
It's about time we realize that people are entitled to their own opinions and that as much as we disagree with them, they should not be met with loud boycott calls but rather reasonable calls for discussion and dialog.
So yes I believe that instead they should have welcomed Gad to lebanon and invited him to visit the populations, the ruins & destructions caused by the IDF, to see the consequences of Tsahal's acts...
Progress vs. Pettiness...

There's a difference between having a different opinion and between belonging to an enemy and supporting that rotten enemy who kills you. You'd have to be one hell of a prideless freak to not feel humiliated welcoming that person into "LEBANON" which is well known globaly for its wars with Irsrael. And how naive could one get to want to show an Israeli what israel has done, as if he doesn't know The problem with Arabs and what brought them to what they are, is their stupidity before their ignorance.

You might be better off celebrating ' women with vision and courage'.

[PhoenixResurrection]

Originally Posted by False Morel

What defamation?!

[...]

If you're referring to Al Manar's report declaring Maleh an ex-member of the Tsahal, well it's their mistake to refer to non-reliable sources, and they should hold the responsibility for that.

Why ask a question if you already know the answer?
So next time before writing about what french people are doing, you should document yourself and read the articles relayed in french media and the associated readers comments.
And Just For my information, did al manal acknowledge its "mistake" and apologize for its viewers? was the reporter reprimended?

Originally Posted by False Morel

However, the mere fact that he's a supporter of Israel is enough. And to mention it through the media is definitely not defamation of any sort!

Originally Posted by Dalzi

There's a difference between having a different opinion and between belonging to an enemy and supporting that rotten enemy who kills you.

Let's stop the ********. "just being a mere supporter of israel" is NOT enough. The whole campaign started by areport of alManar accusing elmaleh of serving in IDF.
They didn't start the campaign against him for being a supporter of Israel. Just as they didn't report against Aznavour for being a friend of Israel nor call for the boycott of his concert organized just recently in lebanon.
Just as they never launched a campaign against ridley scott movies, or s stalone, or sandler's or devito or etc... who are supporters of Israel too.

But he's a supporter of that enemy. And which part of the Lebanese boycotting his show because of his sympathy to Israel didn't you get?!

which part of he's a stand up comedian performing a non political show didn't you get?
which part of respecting people's freedom of opinion didn't you get?
which part of debating with those who don't share your viewpoint didn't you get?

All you have to do is to bring that cause into spotlight in an act to counter-attack that brainwashing propagandist media war against anyone and anything against Israel! Show your support and respect! Self-respect in this case before any other..

If you think you are doing "that cause" any good by calling for boycott and launching false accusations, you are wrong.
One advice: know your audience..

The disturbing thing of that all though, is that you and some others failing to comprehend how come is your stand described as such!

The disturbing thing is that you see political statements in everything and that you fail to distinguish between cultural events and political ones.
The disturbing thing is that kids like you accuse people like "me and some others" of failing our nation because we are defending cultural events & freedom of opinion. we have an impressive CV of defending our Nation against ALL odds, so buzz off.
It is staggering that by merely pointing the stupid mistake of al manar and calling for a different mean of resistance, people like you and some others present it as disrespect of the nation's cause or even worth.

Your viewpoint is as illogical of those calling against "cultural terrorism" because of Gad's events and yet were MIA when fairuz was bullied for performing in Syria.

Apparemment le ridicule ne tue pas....