Gad el Maleh show cancelled !

[Venom]

Originally Posted by The Jade

Yes we should care because it's the image of Lebanon that's being tarnished.
If you don't care about your country, some people do.

W ba3den, what's the opposition for if you want the majority to take care of everything ?

then say hi to the image of Lebanon...

wa2afet 3ala hay...lol

[JD06]

Originally Posted by The Jade

Ok guys, concentrate and try to see the bigger picture.

There was a lot of buzz on the net where people were threatening the life of Gad el Maleh.
There was a lot of people who believed that lie and wanted to do something about it.

As for what the FPM should do about it, well, try not to see it from a Beiteddine festival point of view.

Try to see it from a liberal society's point of view.

The FPM strives to have a liberal society, a country free of intellectual terrorism.
The Gad el Maleh incident was reported all over the news, all over the world.

What would other jewish and non jewish artists think about it ?

How would people and other government depict Lebanon after such a bad publicity ?

The reputation of your country is built on these small things, whenever other same incidents happen, they build up and soon the only artists you'll get in Lebanon would be some shady dudes from KSA, Syria and Soudan.

The FPM should stand up and talk about its opposition to this decision, since it was politically motivated and since it's the image of the country that's taking the hit.
And last I looked, the FPM was a defender of these great causes

ya i understand...ur right in that respect

[Stonecold]

Originally Posted by JD06

i dont see why fpm should talk about it sho khas fpm b beiteddine festival?

another carlos edde style

boukra byotkla3 bi 2ool
"Carlos Edde": i would like to know GMA's opinion about canceling gad l male7 show and also about the death of michael jackson and john kenedy assassination

[SeekNirvana]

Originally Posted by The Jade

Get me the proof, then we'll talk.

Manar's arguments are based on a shady website, would you care to get me an official source ?
How come Gad was allowed to enter Lebanon ?
How come was he given a visa ?

Doesn't the state know who might've fought in the Israeli army ?
The surete generale, headed by Jezzini didn't have a problem with him entering the country.....

Najwa Karam and I dunno who sang a song for Bachar el Assad, the same Bachar who killed many of our citizens, should we boycott them too and kick them out of Lebanon?

Jade,

First, Elmaleh decided not to come without any intervention of the Lebanese authorities.

Second, how did you jump to the intellectual terrorism? If Ziyad Makhoul takes all the issues he accumulated against HA over 20 years all at once in one article, it doesn't mean he's right. I might be misinformed but besides the article that was published (and I guess reported) on Manar, was there any action to ban him?

I don't think Elmaleh's agent was concerned about proving the allegations wrong. For him, it was just easier to cancel the show.

Hypothetical question for you though, if you were in a position of authority, would you allow his show to take place assuming he was actually part of Tsahal at one point?

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by SeekNirvana

Jade,

First, Elmaleh decided not to come without any intervention of the Lebanese authorities.

No, but he was intimidated by a media backed by a very powerful organization while the lebanese state just watched.
And of course the allies of this organization also did nothing

Second, how did you jump to the intellectual terrorism? If Ziyad Makhoul takes all the issues he accumulated against HA over 20 years all at once in one article, it doesn't mean he's right. I might be misinformed but besides the article that was published (and I guess reported) on Manar, was there any action to ban him?

There was a buzz on the net about the whole issue, it was discussed in Hezbollah forums.
Al manar reported it a couple of times and we all know that the station is more than just a TV.

Ziad Makhoul is a piece of ****, but this time he was right on, so were Tarek Mitri and other people who stood against these attacks.

I don't think Elmaleh's agent was concerned about proving the allegations wrong. For him, it was just easier to cancel the show.

He sent a press release denying the facts.

Why would he cancel the show then?
It would hurt only him

Hypothetical question for you though, if you were in a position of authority, would you allow his show to take place assuming he was actually part of Tsahal at one point?

The law forbids me to let him into the country.
If he actually fought in one of the wars against Lebanon, I wouldn't let him, regardless of the law

But the issue is much more complicated than this.
Any Israeli citizen has to enroll in the army for 3 years. That is not a choice, it's an obligation.
Should we consider all Israelis as ennemies ?
I think not, I think a lot of people had to fight for Tsahal because they had to.
And the day we're gonna make peace with Israel, all those who fought for Tsahal will be allowed into the country, so I suppose I won't have to ban anyone in this case

[beirutiye]

3omro ma reje3... If the allegations against him were wrong, he would have cancelled the show aand proving thaqt what have been said was wrong.

I see that if we don't allow such people to enter lebanon, lebanon will become more powerful and not that his image will become worse... It's too bad for lebanon's image if we allow our slaughterer's supporters to come and make money out of us.....

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by beirutiye

3omro ma reje3... If the allegations against him were wrong, he would have cancelled the show aand proving thaqt what have been said was wrong.

How is that now ?

I see that if we don't allow such people to enter lebanon, lebanon will become more powerful and not that his image will become worse... It's too bad for lebanon's image if we allow our slaughterer's supporters to come and make money out of us.....

How would Lebanon become more powerful ?

And please show me the proof against him. And as I asked before, something official and credible not some shitty website

[SeekNirvana]

Originally Posted by The Jade

No, but he was intimidated by a media backed by a very powerful organization while the lebanese state just watched.
And of course the allies of this organization also did nothing

So, what's your argument? My point is that it wasn't in the hands of Lebanese authorities, it was his decision.

There was a buzz on the net about the whole issue, it was discussed in Hezbollah forums.
Al manar reported it a couple of times and we all know that the station is more than just a TV.

Why don't you separate the facts from the assumptions?
Fact: Manar reported it.
Assumption: HA is trying to incite people and scare him away because he is Jewish.

Ziad Makhoul is a piece of ****, but this time he was right on, so were Tarek Mitri and other people who stood against these attacks.

I have no issue with Makhoul personally, I'm singling out his article. The jump from this incident to intellectual terrorism is a big one, and is making a lot of assumptions.

He sent a press release denying the facts.

Then canceled the show.

Why would he cancel the show then?
It would hurt only him

He's scared. Your country averages a war every 2 years, an assassination every one and a half.

The law forbids me to let him into the country.
If he actually fought in one of the wars against Lebanon, I wouldn't let him, regardless of the law

But the issue is much more complicated than this.
Any Israeli citizen has to enroll in the army for 3 years. That is not a choice, it's an obligation.
Should we consider all Israelis as ennemies ?
I think not, I think a lot of people had to fight for Tsahal because they had to.
And the day we're gonna make peace with Israel, all those who fought for Tsahal will be allowed into the country, so I suppose I won't have to ban anyone in this case

Many people have refused military service in the past. But if this is the case, you simply voice the fact that it wasn't something you wanted to do and all you did were mundane tasks blablabla.

Otherwise, yes, I would have an issue with anyone who was willingly part of Tsahal. If he were not on the front, he was covering for someone on the front. It's only a matter of self-respect.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by SeekNirvana

So, what's your argument? My point is that it wasn't in the hands of Lebanese authorities, it was his decision.

The lebanese authorities could've stepped in on 2 fronts:

1) The media front, where some medias were reporting false propaganda inciting violence against someone
2) The PR front, where they could've given him some assurances that nothing would happen to him.

The FPM could've voiced its dismay and supported the coming of Gad.

Why don't you separate the facts from the assumptions?
Fact: Manar reported it.
Assumption: HA is trying to incite people and scare him away because he is Jewish.

There's still something wrong here

I have no issue with Makhoul personally, I'm singling out his article. The jump from this incident to intellectual terrorism is a big one, and is making a lot of assumptions.

What assumptions are you talking about ?

Then canceled the show.

You said it right here:

He's scared. Your country averages a war every 2 years, an assassination every one and a half.

Many people have refused military service in the past. But if this is the case, you simply voice the fact that it wasn't something you wanted to do and all you did were mundane tasks blablabla.

Otherwise, yes, I would have an issue with anyone who was willingly part of Tsahal. If he were not on the front, he was covering for someone on the front. It's only a matter of self-respect.

Agree with you on that

[beirutiye]

Originally Posted by The Jade

How would Lebanon become more powerful ?

And please show me the proof against him. And as I asked before, something official and credible not some shitty website

Lebanon and lebanese people will become more powerful when they stop chasing those who step on the necks and ridicule them, not only Gad but even in politics..
Look in Israel, Ricky Martin was once almost banned from going there just because he wore that palestinian kufa while visiting palestine and we just keep on saying what if he fought in the enemy's army, why ban him??!!! This is so stupid!!!
Gad isn't only so-called Israeli but admits openly that he fought with their army!! He even find them heroes!!

If those accusations against him are wrong, I believe he would have denied them and then canceled the show. Anyway, why would something like that surface only about him on the net while others not ??!! It seems fishy, doesn't it??