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Default Re: ظهور السيد المسيح والسيدة العذراء في ثكن&a - 1st September 2006

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loooooooooooool. Yeah and it has to be from a specific file type. .wmv works but a real video one doesn't work, because God likes Bill Gates.

You are making fun alright ...but its ok !

Do you know something. Let me get it clear .

You say That some people are making themselvesselves see, or in other words, they are imagining that something is moving or something related to a miracle is happening.

But If it is right that I am imaging that it is moving, then dont you agree that in MY eyes, it is moving ?
I dont care if it is ONLY in my eyes, I did see it. I mean i dont expect a guy who doesnt care about Jesus to see his face or anything related to him.

The Point of miracles is : When you get the utmost faith, that is when you can see the miracles. This happens with rare people. And that is what christianity teaches us.

Finally this sentence is very important: "touba li man 2amana wa lam yarra"

Ofcourse, sometimes, as i said before, people make up things just to appear in front of the public as unique or something. This is Wrong.


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Osiris, You may get disappointed but Miracles do exist.
Disappointed? Not at all my friend because I know what they are.

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1982, Medjugorje : 3 of the best professors in the USSR are examining 6 children who are claiming that they are meeting Holy Mary everyday.
The 3 professors did claim the following:
"We can't explain what's really going on with these chidren. Something supernatural is taking place because those 6 children are seeing the same person (same height same face) and are hearing the same voice (they examined the children's ears and they got the same voice)"
Now you wanna tell me that 6 children can make their eardrums act the same way and hear the same voice that nobody else is hearing and nobody else is having the same eardrum's motion?
Again, it's the complexity of our mind!
Have you heard of Telepathy, Parapsychology, Clairvoyance, Magnetoencephalography, etc..?

If you want, open another thread about miracles and the human mind and I'd explain these.

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Default Re: ظهور السيد المسيح والسيدة العذراء في ثكن&a - 1st September 2006

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Again, it's the complexity of our mind!
Have you heard of Telepathy, Parapsychology, Clairvoyance, Magnetoencephalography, etc..?
Thumbs up Osiris!!!

I definitely Rule for another thread to discuss the above mentioned "Brain Powers"

Very very interesting topic indeed... We like to attribute the title of "Miracle" to anything that the brain does not understand... But there are actually many explanations...
The age of miracles is over... now is the time to make our brains work, and believe me! Science does not distance one from the creator! In fact, it makes us bow in respect at how amazing this universe is!!!!

I believe that miracles sometimes happen... but not everytime a pic or a scene appears, it is a miracle!!! PULEEEEZ!!!!

One time, in the states, some mold appeared on the wall of a freeway's underpass... end result??? Freeway was closed for numerous hours cause believers wanted to worship the Christ image that had appeared out of the mold.... Now this is rediculous and insulting to any one with a little faith and understanding of how mold develops and spreads... plus, Jesus in mold??? Wallah 3eib! I do believe that God is everywhere... but be realistic for God's sake at least!!!! UFT!!! Keep God in your heart and away from mold formations if possible!!! I do not have to see to believe in God... I marvel at how the universe was created and that in itself is faith enriching...
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Default Re: ظهور السيد المسيح والسيدة العذراء في ثكن&a - 1st September 2006

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Now I think this is not true.It is not that I dont believe in miracles but many reasons make me think so.
1st the timing. It is known that everytime a war happens or a conflict smthg like this is hown. Do U remember when people said HArissa turned towards Beirut when it was bombed by syrians?? or like the rumors of people seeing the face of St charbel in the smoke when Beirut was burning in 13th Oct1990....
2nd Showing 2 videos one for Mary & one for Jesus is weird.It looks artificial.Moreover Jesus never appeared in any visual form in any miracle.Only Mary (Lourdes,Medugorje, Egypt...) so this would drawn more attention to it.
I think it is a hoax,BUT done on some good purpose like giving hope to christians & so...Anyway, short after U see the faces, U feel something inside, like na2ze or fear or some undescribed feeling, Dont YOU???
Concerning Harissa's issue it is 100% true...I'm from Harissa and all ppl especially the old men assure that the statue turned his position...
And even though Mary appeared chou byemna3 enno Jesus Christ Appears...
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Concerning Harissa's issue it is 100% true...I'm from Harissa and all ppl especially the old men assure that the statue turned his position...
Yes , i heard about that,
they say that the statue tured it face when Fares souaid was talking about the christian people in the elections :P
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Yes , i heard about that,
they say that the statue tured it face when Fares souaid was talking about the christian people in the elections :P
And i believe that for Fared Souaid to preserve his face as a christian, he blamed a FPMer of turning its face ....
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Yes , i heard about that,
they say that the statue tured it face when Fares souaid was talking about the christian people in the elections :P


I'm talking about men zamen not about the elections....
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Didnt they say also, "if U dont send it now to at least 25 persons more children will Die,& for every 5 additional persons sent a bridge will be saved" ???
if you send this mail to all of your contacts, something good will happen for you in the 10 upcoming minutes, if you don't send this mail to all of your contacts, you'll lose a close friend
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One time, in the states, some mold appeared on the wall of a freeway's underpass... end result??? Freeway was closed for numerous hours cause believers wanted to worship the Christ image that had appeared out of the mold.... Now this is rediculous and insulting to any one with a little faith and understanding of how mold develops and spreads... plus, Jesus in mold??? Wallah 3eib! I do believe that God is everywhere... but be realistic for God's sake at least!!!! UFT!!! Keep God in your heart and away from mold formations if possible!!! I do not have to see to believe in God... I marvel at how the universe was created and that in itself is faith enriching...
Neat and precise Abir!
I don't think "God" needs to send proofs of his existence. It's either you believe or not. Simply that! Most of these so-called miracles are "man-made", and the rest are the products of our brain and psychology!
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Default Re: ظهور السيد المسيح والسيدة العذراء في ثكن&a - 1st September 2006

Well i downloaded the video, and didn't see a thing, My brother saw Mary directly so he told me where it was and I saw it, my mother and father also saw her directly.
Personaly I think it's a khyel, but I do admit that in some cases Miracles do happen, how, where and when should be discussed.
But I saw with my eyes the influence that some people can do to other in seeing things move, I was in the village over deir l a7mar where the virgin is currently moving (forgot the name of the village) and suddenly a women in front us started praying and shouting and she said that Mary is moving her hand and she asked her kid if he is seeing it and he said yes, while infact nothing was moving and they where the only one to see them so...
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