10th Annual Australia Day Event

[Duke of Kanebridge III]

Originally Posted by tatiana

Its like groundhog day... everytime a thread is opened about the UALM its the same old question and same old replies....

Thread:
http://lfpm.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24815

Post:
http://lfpm.org/forum/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=15

Exactly right, open one up in 12 months and if the name is the same, ill say it again, even in this thread no-one has responded as to whether they should change name. The usual LF response didnt work this time because i agree it should be changed, one thing to keep in mind is that the LF in Sydney is Called LF Sydney, not by another name that is misleading. the UALM is an FPM party in Australia, so call it that, big deal. In any case i dont really care, i just pointed it out.

Originally Posted by C.K

Dearest Duke!

Long time no hear. I trust that you have been well.

Contrary to what you believe things havent changed my friend, The same FPM in 2001 is the the same FPM today - that includes the UALM.GMA is the only person to have stuck to his guns since day one.

The MoU (which you detest so much) actually sets a framework for a just, fair and suitable solution to a myriad of issues that are currently outstanding in Lebanon.

Have you read the MoU? Is there anything that goes against Lebanon's sovereignty, freedom and independence?

The MoU proved to all that two totally different parties can sit down and actaully agree.

I ask you dear Duke, what is your solution to HA's weapons? What is Feb 14's solution? Are you going to throw HA in the ocean? Get the US to send the 6th fleet and bomb them into oblivion??

At least GMA offered one, at least give him that. Dont you think he knew it will cost him support in the short term? especially amongst Christians? What GMA did was to break a taboo in Lebanon and actually engage in serious, honest dialogue with another political party and for that it cost him the presidency that he is accused of coverting so much.

Duke, Who formed an alliance with HA then formed a government with them along with Lahoud, then signed a ministerial statement legalising thier weapons while noting that they are necessary and then break off the alliance later on? was that GMA too?

We are in this prediciment today because of the sneaky and dirty politics of Feb14. They have shown that they are willing to work with Syria's (so-called) allies but will not work with GMA or the Tayyar.

GMA has not changed, he was and will always be the conscience that doesnt let those opportunists sleep at night.

Please all I ask from you is to look further than your own nose. Things in Lebanon are not as simple as Aoun is Syrian or HA wants to Islamise Lebanon etc.

Lets think a bit more.

Been good mate,
just one question, when you supported 1559 in 04-05, didnt you realise then that you couldnt throw HA in the ocean, or did you just realise that when FPM became isolated early 06. again i think the MOU can answer that question. The MOU is the most powerful agreement in lebanese history, because it united 2 isolated political parties under a common agreement that hasnt achieved anything in two years. But we all know that its sanioras fault.
again people, i will say, no offence just my view on things.

[LibnanSoldier]

I'm not sure where I was going to ask it, but doesn't Australia have a serious problem with Lebanese gangs who refuse to accept that they're White?

[C.K]

Originally Posted by Duke of Kanebridge III

Been good mate,
just one question, when you supported 1559 in 04-05, didnt you realise then that you couldnt throw HA in the ocean, or did you just realise that when FPM became isolated early 06. again i think the MOU can answer that question. The MOU is the most powerful agreement in lebanese history, because it united 2 isolated political parties under a common agreement that hasnt achieved anything in two years. But we all know that its sanioras fault.
again people, i will say, no offence just my view on things.

Duke,

When we supported (AND STILL DO) UNSCR 1559, we knew we couldnt throw them in the ocean. The MoU is a means to implement UNSCR 1559. It is a mechanism whereby The HA issue will be solved with dignity. We never demanded that HA be thrown in the ocean, we provided a suitbale framework.

Let me agree with you and say that the MoU has not achieved anything. The MoU can only achieve something if it is implemented and how can it be implemented when 1. It was rejected by the political elite and 2. The gov. refuses to have The C&R bloc and Ha/Amal as partners in a power sharing agreement??

The MoU is the rock on which lebanon can be built. Feb 14 by monoplising power are building on sand, the strong foundations are with the MoU and by ALL groups joining the MoU.

Our hands are extended to all, All are welcome to join.

BTW- You didnt even answer not one of my questions in my previous post, but not to worry i didnt think you would ;)

[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by LibnanSoldier

I'm not sure where I was going to ask it, but doesn't Australia have a serious problem with Lebanese gangs who refuse to accept that they're White?

Australia doesn't have a serious problem with lebanese gangs, what it has is a problem with a handful minority of Lebanese immigrants who migrated in the early eighties and refused to assimilate into the broad community. This anti-social mentaility created enclaves, particularly the same religous group.

Their offsprings were born to feel different, and were taught to hate all infidels, and not to treat others as equals.

Once these offsprings reach an age their parents can no longer control, they are unleached into a community they cannot relate to, so they retaliate by whatever anti-social behaviour they can find.

Thank goodness, this problem has now receeded substancially, but it was never a big problem to begin with.