[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

You clearly said that science wouldn't exist if it wasn't of Islam that's pure fanatism, and now you're changing to say that Islam came to build on the past etc.

I wasn't referring to the science that was before Islam, rather than the science of today. Who doesn't know that there was science before Islam? lol

that's now what you said earlier; and it wasn't because of Islam that their nations flourished, it was because of the organization that their nations flourished, incidentally they happened to be muslims, big deal what does religion have to do with civilizations flourishing before and after islam, how can you justify the egyptians? how can you justify the greek? how can you justify the British? How can you justify the Americans? Nations flourish because of good management and methods to allocate wealth to the right place, it could be done because of a religious decree to allocate wealth which goes back to management or because of pure management that has nothing to do with religion to start with, but which some religions adopted as a means of life. If some religions have management in them it doesn't mean that you can't management and live your life and flourish without the religion, same as you don't religion to stop people from stealing.
Bottom line religion and way of life are two different things, mixing them together is for the easy minded, it makes his life easier, he doesn't have to think.

Each civilization had it's own methods, culture and history. There is no need to explain anything, this is obvious. What we're talking about here is the fact that everybody knows. The Arabs before Mohamad's message had no management skills whatsoever, they flourished on power over the weak and poor. The only thing they knew was how to worship statues and throw the only piece of bread in their hands before them only to end up in the pockets of those who called themselves priests. When Islam came, it brought what is obvious in Islamic books. What were the Arabs before Islam? " incidentally " you said? The organization of wealth is what Islam established by the khoms and zakat which went into 'khazinat al Muslimin", or what is called 'social security' today.