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Originally Posted by Dalzi  Democracy was not butchered by "Islam", Islam is still what it was like when it came and took Arabia from nothing to everything. What you have in the Arab world is not Islam, it's western imposed dictatorships that brought ignorance to the people and as a result we have what we have. Islam the knowledge and books is not Islamic regimes. They all violate for political purposes. There is nothing more just than Islam the religion. It's beautiful.
Where did I imply that people started loving each other when Valentino's mum gave birth to him? Knowledge has been passed down and we all know where it started, I didn't say otherwise. Point is, Islam not only stamped out paganism, but gave the Arabs the boost to take the knowledge from those before them and develop it while the world was sinking in ignorance. It did not come to take the people back, on the contrary, their nations flourished in science, art, literature, architecture...etc because of Islam. Speaking of Islam and science in an attempt to isolate the two is comical.
What's even more comical is how you immediately resort to the term "fanatic" when addressing someone who speaks of religion, especially when you're addressing me. |
You clearly said that science wouldn't exist if it wasn't of Islam that's pure fanatism, and now you're changing to say that Islam came to build on the past etc. that's now what you said earlier; and it wasn't because of Islam that their nations flourished, it was because of the organization that their nations flourished, incidentally they happened to be muslims, big deal what does religion have to do with civilizations flourishing before and after islam, how can you justify the egyptians? how can you justify the greek? how can you justify the British? How can you justify the Americans? Nations flourish because of good management and methods to allocate wealth to the right place, it could be done because of a religious decree to allocate wealth which goes back to management or because of pure management that has nothing to do with religion to start with, but which some religions adopted as a means of life. If some religions have management in them it doesn't mean that you can't management and live your life and flourish without the religion, same as you don't religion to stop people from stealing.
Bottom line religion and way of life are two different things, mixing them together is for the easy minded, it makes his life easier, he doesn't have to think.