[Ataraxia]

Originally Posted by TripolySunni

Now we both must agree that the question to this thread is Wrong or is misunderstood by almost everyone who has posted here. I Already explained what the Word God means and what is a "God" and explained as well how and why "Gods" are worshipped. I'll give you an example about urself so that you understand better, one God (out of probably many) which you have is "Athiesm", You Put ur Faith and Hope in this Idea and draw Strength in Return as I quote you : "I feel it gives me strength actually", And how do you Worship this God? Simply By Deniying and refusing to accept Ideas about The One God and creator of the Universe. Now What do you gain from This God? Well you gain as u've said before "Strength" in return, And Other people with Other gods (Ideas/Causes/Practises which they persue and Put thier hopes, Faith and believe In) Deny ur idea and also Say that they are drawing Strength from thier Gods(Ideas/Causes/Practises which they persue and Put thier hopes, Faith and believe In) in return such as Scientologists or hindus or Other Athiests who came up with "ID" and are no longer Athiests By ur standards ( You can call them Heretics :)

Except that Atheism is not a God. I feel strength because I came up with a conviction of my own rather than being imposed on or inherited, which is why conviction of something would always give you strength.

So the only point of Debate is the following, Do you believe this Universe Has a creator ? (because debating the rest is more than less than pointless)

No, and the reason is because what I said throughout this thread. Giving purpose to something just to make it more meaningful to us does not mean the purpose is true. And If we want to put religion aside, why would a creator create a universe ? There is no purpose here at all. Both ways, a creator does not exist.