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Default 27th May 2009

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Originally Posted by I_Am_LebanoN View Post
Nobody can prove the existence or nonexistence of what never existed. The fact that their existence cannot be proven or disproven itself proves they never existed. Just like you cannot prove bigfoot, or the toothfairy or santa don't exist. Is there a 50/50 chance that they may or may not exist ? No, they just don't and never did.

You have no perspective, you have no logic, that's blatant nonsense.
This isn't accurate. If you'd like, I can write out a rigorous proof for you that demonstrates how any system of logic and rationality (such as arithmetic, algebra, calculus, etc) is ultimately incomplete in the sense that there will always be truths within that system of logic that cannot be demonstrated to be true, and falsehoods within that system of logic that cannot be demonstrated to be false. In other words, any rigidly logical system is incomplete. Furthermore, it is possible to prove that any logical system is also inconsistent, meaning that its consistency cannot be demonstrated within the system itself.

What this tell us is that, we can only be certain of what we can be certain of as long as we can demonstrate the consistency and viability of our methods exhaustively and rigorously within the system(s) of logic that we are utilizing, and that there will always be truths and falsehoods that we will never be able to identify as such. Essentially, the tools at our disposal (logic, rationality, mathematics, science, etc) will never be able to uncover all truths and expose all falsehoods, and in some cases, when it comes to some of the things we demonstrate to be true, the inconsistency of our methods will always cast doubt on the validity of our findings.

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