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22nd May 2009
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Originally Posted by tricky not sure if i get ur concept of heaven or hell, are you saying if you are good your life would be good (heaven) if you have been bad your life would be bad (hell)? i quote you why did i think like this "and the one you're living now is the result of what you did earlier." if you mean it so i still dont know why you call it heaven and hell cause it has nothing to do with it " We are a mer reflection of the experiences and problems we have faced in life and our life is a mer reflection of the choices we have made" | No you did not get "my" concept, let me put it this way:
They told us that hell is the place we go to if we were bad in our lives. (right?)
I tell you what you are doing in this life is not for this life, you will be rewarded even in your next hell-life or your next heaven-life (relatively speaking) because at the end, like it or not, you're going to the so called heaven.
Do you know The Parable of the Talents? if you do, do you know what does it mean ? Quote:
am not sure that religion cant answer most question as far as i know christians can answer all, i would recommend you to read " The Confessions of St Augestine" really good book ^_^. to me when i was christian i never believe in the church nor in priests, i dont need them, all i need was my bible. this is from the Thomas Gospel ( Nag Hammadi) "77 :Yeshúa says: I-Am the Light who is above them all, I-Am the All. All came
forth from me and all return to me. Cleave wood, there am I. Lift up the
stone and there you shall find me." God is everywhere we dont need the church or priests to talk with god... so the church and priests screwing up shouldnt affect the so called believer... so the church can go on killing ppl ex:Spanish Inquisition, the war on cathar, islam etc... or it can sell places in heaven, or rape children all those shouldnt affect the christian believer, when jesus came he said i think " Hear what they preach but dont do what they do ( he was talking about the priest)", jesus clearly didnt like priests and stuff he use to call them hypocrite to me nothing has changed :P, same situation different ppl :D, priest are just hypocrites... so if you are affected by priest and the church i think you have a small problem, the christian faith isnt build on those but on jesus.... like i said in my first post the death of god and rebirth is envitable ^_^...
| Nobody is telling you to believe in the church, not even the church itself, nor its priests.
Jesus did not ask you to believe in him, he told you follow me, because only through Jesus you can reach God.
Now don't tell me that Muslims can't reach god! Jesus here is a way of living, a level of faith, you can find it in many religions.
No religions can't answer all the questions, and i told you why in my previous post. Quote:
nop i dont think it's insulting, it's just that they didnt have the tools that we have right now for example we know when the bibles where written and we know that the church chosen to keep some bible and discard some hence the "Nag Hammadi library gospels" the bible is about 66 books or 73 depending on the sect and it is written by 40 writters, and most likly we know that the actually gosples wherent written by " Mathew, Mark, Luke, John" since they are written about 70 B.C so the persons who actually wrote the bible never met jesus in the first place, it's more like a story which was told and i know one thing or two about how humans tell stories , yeah they add a lot of Bhar and mele7 and Mark and Luke are thought to have been copied from a previouse gospel known as Q gospel ( Q stands for Source in german, it's still a theoratical gospel), and now it is known that the story of Adam and Eve is just a myth and Noah as well , Noah is known to be taken from a story before christian if you want the book it is called " The Epic of Gilgamesh " ( written by the summarian civilization) , i guess when you add all those up and some other stuff .... about the opposite of wrong isnt correct yeah i believe so as well that it doesnt have to be, this is from St Augestine book well i dont have the book right now but it means something like this " Darkness is not a matter itself but it's the lack of light" and about the truth this is what i believe right now...
"Truth is a made up word
Describes something that doesn’t exist
The world in the eye of the holder;
There is no truth but perspective"
| I can give you thousands (and maybe more) of contradictions, and of names who wrote about Jesus before and after, and honestly i do not care who wrote them or when did they do it, in a couple years I might be able to write something about Jesus and the Christianity, the point here is do you understand Jesus' parables or not ? If you don't you have the right to say what you're saying, however I feel pity that you're not looking for an answer, If you do,... forget it , I'm sure you don't.
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