[Layyouss]

Originally Posted by tricky

first of all i think the concept of hell and heaven is dead, even priests don't believe in hell and heaven, hell & heaven is such a childish concept... if god exists he is all loving and forever forgiving god, which also disproves the childish idea of hell and heaven, so we where created because god was overflowing with love, god is the ultimate god... but when i look to this world i just cant imagine that god created this world and it's so F*****. Thousands of ppl of dying of hunger, i just cant see the reflection of god's fairness when i see ppl dying of thirst while others are swiming in a pool...

Even the most logical reasons why god exist aint that logical
1- Since we exist something must have made us exist just like when we see a table we can conclude that somebody made it and we conclude that humans made it just like god made humans

1- even this analogy fails, if god created us , then who created him? same problem, the analogy of going back aint the right analogy to go by clearly it fails. we just need a new analogy, maybe we still are young at the level of thinking...

2- the perfection of this world reflects god who created it

2- this world has been around for billions of years, hence the need of evolution and the survival of the fits and to everything that comes with it, it's not like the world just woke up one day and we had birds and fishes, this evolution took so many years to be where it is now...

Missing link found? Scientists unveil fossil of 47 million-year-old primate, Darwinius masillae

some times ago i wrote a very small essay about like 2 pages title "Christianity falls short" since it will offend ppl i wont put it here ^_^ , but can i put a link to a page that contains the essay?

I do believe in heaven and hell as a concept, but not as two places where we go after death to spend the rest of our "lives" waiting for the Armageddon.
In my opinion heaven and hell are relatively the result of the actions you take in this life, and the one you're living now is the result of what you did earlier.
As for God, unfortunately most of the people are becoming atheists because of the religions. The religions who can't answer all the people's questions because even they can't afford giving a true answer that obviously is a contradiction for a big lie on which they built their glories, or because they know that the true religion is so very spiritual that most of the followers can't comprehend. Maybe it's time for a new religion..

I agree that the idea of God as we know it today is very absurd and i dare saying wrong, but on the other hand don't you think that you're insulting people's intelligence when you say that the idea of God who's been running for thousands of years and maybe more is a myth ?
In my opinion God exists for sure, but of course not as you described it in your post nor as my parents told me he would be, but for me I would be a coward who deserves Hell (that i told you about above) if I don't look for him and for the truth, It's very wrong to assume that if something is wrong than its opposite is right.