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Default 4th January 2009

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Originally Posted by taifoon View Post
That is the right spirit, but do not commit the same mistake as the Israelis do and let the spirit run amok on reason.

Yes, you may be able to eliminate Israel. And No, not through war or force.
You can eliminate Israel through making FAIR PEACE with Israel. This is where you should aim and shoot.
Fair peace is all we ask for, "FAIR" peace :)

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The moment you start pushing the Israelis, if ever, into a corner where they find themselves into the same "defense" position as you are today, the roles will be switched. You yourself are a living example of how it works. The more aggressive Israel gets in trying to eliminate Hamas or Hizballah for that matter, the stronger those entities become..

When your survival is threatened, instinct kicks off and you'll "resist". A publically declared determination and will to exterminate the Israelis, makes them morally and physically stronger and more determined to Resist you. Heck, this is what they, cunningly and half-falsely, already use to fuel their assaulting aggression.
Wrong, very wrong. Zionits can never be HA or Hamas, and instead of making them stronger, I have made them weaker, weaker than you can ever imagine. Those people Taifoon are not what we are, their men cry and cling to life like a monkey holding onto a banana (it's gotta be instinct). You will never see one of them who is ready to use his body as a weapon, while we have the millions who would not hesitate. They are dealing with a fierce enemy, more fierce than anyone can imagine. You still have a lot to know about how an Israeli head functions. We know them all too well. They will run for their lives like chicken before a fox.

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Your name is Resistance, and the name defines already your power limits. Your powers are good enough to halt and neutralize Israel's aggression, maybe at some point completely eliminate it in favor for forcing FAIR PEACE on it; not really eliminate Israel itself as a country, neither now nor at least for few decades ahead. They have an army of 500-700.000 recruits, how many do we have? Their war machine is a thousand times ours, on many levels.. Look at the Syrians, they, if any, could fairly present themselves as a power match to the Israelis, still no one has yet heard them declare their will to exterminate Israel..
Who told you that when we talk of eliminating Israel, which is the only thing that would have to happen for fair peace to reign, we mean that little tiny us are going to do it? When we talk of eliminating Israel we do not talk HA or Hamas or Iran, we talk much more than that.

700,000 recruits you said? The millions of '2esteshhadiyin' are ready for those when time comes.

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Elimination rhetorics make therefore no sense, at least not when a nation like Iran has no direct borders with Israel, against which those elimination dreams/slogans/intentions could be banged and proved, and when we ourselves, are still in the Resisting business, and ages away from obtaining the numbers and tools needed for such a huge enterprise as of eliminating another well established entity, however unjust we deem its existence.
We will always be in the resisting business. We will never do anything other than resist. You will never see those who say they want to eliminate Israel initiating a war, but what do we do if or rather when Israel does? Resist of
course

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You can only eliminate Israel with FAIR PEACE, only, by getting back occupied lands, with an arrangement for the right of refugees to go back home -or elsewhere where there's space-, in exchange for embassies and a peace treaty. When this is done, no more is needed. Make sure no economical ties with Israelis are made and you can sit back and watch Israel wither slowly.
1- Israel won't accept a fair peace.
2- Occupied land is all Palestine.
3- Israel wants to kick the Palestinians out not take what was discplaced back.
4- Returning to other than their homes is not an option. Just imagine the Israelis taking your area in Lebanon and telling you that you can never return but rather go live in China instead. I'm sure you wouldn't like it.
5- We can't rely on the 'economy' to rid mankind of oppression because we do not have that power and we will never have that power the Arab BS peace way. The only way to gain such miraculous ability is to be in control.

Let's be realistic regarding the options we have.

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You might ask: And what if Israel rejects even that? a Fair Peace? Indeed, we'll be at the same spot as we are today; and if Israel's screaming need for military superiority over the region is one of the air components it breathes, we'll keep making sure that air is constantly polluted. We make sure we're always ready for Israeli warfare as we should for peace. Because at some point, the regular Israeli citizen will finally question the futility of living in an escalating state of fear and war, especially when those fears are daily stirred by frequent reports about the strong possibility that "the enemy" might soon stand ready with own nuclear bomb..
That is exactly what we will do and what we are doing. But that will have to end one day and it wouldn't be us who will end it. Israel is going to rage wars on all those who do not accept with its humiliating conditions. We of course have voiced that we can never accept humiliation, and that is something Israel doesn't like. Israel WILL initiate harm and only then will it see wonders.

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You see, If Iran gets a nuclear bomb, the middle east will get peace sooner than your black eye blink, 7adret sittna Dalzi.
Iran has not hesitated to say that Israel will perish. And nuclear weapons in the hands of two enemies are an assurance that the world will still exist for a few years after the regional war that happens to be knocking on doors.

P.S. I also believe in miracles Mr Taifoon
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