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Originally Posted by Dalzi  Very much understood. It's a natural thing. You do not have the same beliefs as HA or Hamas, so it's only logical that you question the 'overconfidence' of eliminating Israel. All we need to do is look back at history, to conquer and flourish over a piece of land, you HAVE to be able to get rid of the inhabitants. This is how western coutnries came to be. But when it comes to Israel, they can never either outnumber, or get rid of, or even stop the Palestinians and their resistance movements. And mind you, no "Empire" erected on poles of tyranny lasts forever. They are destined to perish as long as there are people willing to resist. إِنَّ فِرْعَوْنَ عَلَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَجَعَلَ أَهْلَهَا شِيَعًا يَسْتَضْعِفُ طَائِفَةً مِّنْهُمْ يُذَبِّحُ أَبْنَاءهُمْ وَيَسْتَحْيِي نِسَاءهُمْ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مِنَ الْمُفْسِدِينَ
وَنُرِيدُ أَن نَّمُنَّ عَلَى الَّذِينَ اسْتُضْعِفُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَنَجْعَلَهُمْ أَئِمَّةً وَنَجْعَلَهُمُ الْوَارِثِينَ
وَنُمَكِّنَ لَهُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَنُرِي فِرْعَوْنَ وَهَامَانَ وَجُنُودَهُمَا مِنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا يَحْذَرُونَ
غُلِبَتِ الرُّومُ
فِي أَدْنَى الْأَرْضِ وَهُم مِّن بَعْدِ غَلَبِهِمْ سَيَغْلِبُونَ
فِي بِضْعِ سِنِينَ لِلَّهِ الْأَمْرُ مِن قَبْلُ وَمِن بَعْدُ وَيَوْمَئِذٍ يَفْرَحُ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ
بِنَصْرِ اللَّهِ يَنصُرُ مَن يَشَاء وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الرَّحِيمُ
وَعْدَ اللَّهِ لَا يُخْلِفُ اللَّهُ وَعْدَهُ وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
So you see, we can't convince each other nor can we discuss things we will never agree on. Each has his own views and opinions. Again, I completely understand your concern, and had I been in your place I'd say exactly what you are saying. It's hard enough to discuss such topic with a Muslim who differs, you can imagine how it'd sound to someone else lol. What's factual is that we've created a resistance based on our beliefs which are tried and tested. Similarly, we also aspire for more and we will get what we want with complete confidence or rather overconfidence.
Yes, Israel will be eliminated. |
That is the right spirit, but do not commit the same mistake as the Israelis do and let the spirit run amok on reason.
Yes, you may be able to eliminate Israel. And No, not through war or force.
You can eliminate Israel through making FAIR PEACE with Israel. This is where you should aim and shoot.
The moment you start pushing the Israelis, if ever, into a corner where they find themselves into the same "defense" position as you are today, the roles will be switched. You yourself are a living example of how it works. The more aggressive Israel gets in trying to eliminate Hamas or Hizballah for that matter, the stronger those entities become..
When your survival is threatened, instinct kicks off and you'll "resist". A publically declared determination and will to exterminate the Israelis, makes them morally and physically stronger and more determined to Resist you. Heck, this is what they, cunningly and half-falsely, already use to fuel their assaulting aggression.
Your name is Resistance, and the name defines already your power limits. Your powers are good enough to halt and neutralize Israel's aggression, maybe at some point completely eliminate it in favor for forcing FAIR PEACE on it; not really eliminate Israel itself as a country, neither now nor at least for few decades ahead. They have an army of 500-700.000 recruits, how many do we have? Their war machine is a thousand times ours, on many levels.. Look at the Syrians, they, if any, could fairly present themselves as a power match to the Israelis, still no one has yet heard them declare their will to exterminate Israel..
Elimination rhetorics make therefore no sense, at least not when a nation like Iran has no direct borders with Israel, against which those elimination dreams/slogans/intentions could be banged and proved, and when we ourselves, are still in the
Resisting business, and ages away from obtaining the numbers and tools needed for such a huge enterprise as of eliminating another well established entity, however unjust we deem its existence.
You can only eliminate Israel with FAIR PEACE, only, by getting back occupied lands, with an arrangement for the right of refugees to go back home -or elsewhere where there's space-, in exchange for embassies and a peace treaty. When this is done, no more is needed. Make sure no economical ties with Israelis are made and you can sit back and watch Israel wither slowly.
You might ask: And what if Israel rejects even that? a Fair Peace? Indeed, we'll be at the same spot as we are today; and if Israel's screaming need for military superiority over the region is one of the air components it breathes, we'll keep making sure that air is constantly polluted. We make sure we're always ready for Israeli warfare as we should for peace. Because at some point, the regular Israeli citizen will finally question the futility of living in an escalating state of fear and war, especially when those fears are daily stirred by frequent reports about the strong possibility that "the enemy" might soon stand ready with own nuclear bomb.. You see, If Iran gets a nuclear bomb, the middle east will get peace sooner than your black eye blink, 7adret sittna Dalzi.