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Default 3rd January 2009

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Originally Posted by loubnaniTO View Post
Once again, i am not attacking the resistance, In fact i really believe we'd be better off without Israel around. But i am just questioning the sometimes overconfidence that we sometimes have that we can eliminate Israel.
Very much understood. It's a natural thing. You do not have the same beliefs as HA or Hamas, so it's only logical that you question the 'overconfidence' of eliminating Israel. All we need to do is look back at history, to conquer and flourish over a piece of land, you HAVE to be able to get rid of the inhabitants. This is how western coutnries came to be. But when it comes to Israel, they can never either outnumber, or get rid of, or even stop the Palestinians and their resistance movements. And mind you, no "Empire" erected on poles of tyranny lasts forever. They are destined to perish as long as there are people willing to resist.

إِنَّ فِرْعَوْنَ عَلَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَجَعَلَ أَهْلَهَا شِيَعًا يَسْتَضْعِفُ طَائِفَةً مِّنْهُمْ يُذَبِّحُ أَبْنَاءهُمْ وَيَسْتَحْيِي نِسَاءهُمْ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مِنَ الْمُفْسِدِينَ
وَنُرِيدُ أَن نَّمُنَّ عَلَى الَّذِينَ اسْتُضْعِفُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَنَجْعَلَهُمْ أَئِمَّةً وَنَجْعَلَهُمُ الْوَارِثِينَ
وَنُمَكِّنَ لَهُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَنُرِي فِرْعَوْنَ وَهَامَانَ وَجُنُودَهُمَا مِنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا يَحْذَرُونَ


غُلِبَتِ الرُّومُ
فِي أَدْنَى الْأَرْضِ وَهُم مِّن بَعْدِ غَلَبِهِمْ سَيَغْلِبُونَ
فِي بِضْعِ سِنِينَ لِلَّهِ الْأَمْرُ مِن قَبْلُ وَمِن بَعْدُ وَيَوْمَئِذٍ يَفْرَحُ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ
بِنَصْرِ اللَّهِ يَنصُرُ مَن يَشَاء وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الرَّحِيمُ
وَعْدَ اللَّهِ لَا يُخْلِفُ اللَّهُ وَعْدَهُ وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ

So you see, we can't convince each other nor can we discuss things we will never agree on. Each has his own views and opinions. Again, I completely understand your concern, and had I been in your place I'd say exactly what you are saying. It's hard enough to discuss such topic with a Muslim who differs, you can imagine how it'd sound to someone else lol. What's factual is that we've created a resistance based on our beliefs which are tried and tested. Similarly, we also aspire for more and we will get what we want with complete confidence or rather overconfidence.

Yes, Israel will be eliminated.
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