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Originally Posted by Abufijli I personally know that you not attacking the resistance, and am sure that you would prefer a ME without Israel, but may I ask you a question, do you believe in justice, karma, and that right will always win in the end? |
I believe in Justice and in Karma... not sure about the last part though. The right will always win in the end? which end? and which right? and isnt it that everytime a "right" wins another "wrong" is born?
Karma is very effective, but karma is relative. What is "right" for us, is wrong for others, and what's right for them is wrong for us. And if each side truly and genuinly believes that they're right, then karmas clash. We call them Zionist evil, they call us terrorists... I live in north america, and i tell you, they believe it with every breath of their lives.
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My views differ from yours in that mine include a lot of Islamic ideology and belief in the truth of scriptures about the defeat of Israel. I did have the exact same views as yourself, but times have certainly changed and facts on the battleground speak louder than any words.
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we certainly disagree here

Not because I might be from another religion, but we disagree in our view of religion and "scriptures". I will respect yours, and I'm sure you respect mine. PERSONALLY, i don't believe in scriptures or "divine" wars or written destinies. I believe in the will of the people and their... karma

. Scriptures and religions do help in that they lift up the moral and remove the fear associated with the loss/death in a war. In my (PERSONAL) view, the great victory of 2006 was not Divine, it was the fruit of the strong will of the fighters, their strong belief in their cause, and the strength and intelligence of the leadership. Ghandi's victory over the British (with no arms) wasn't with the help of God, but the strong belief of Indians in their rights.
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Israel can not continue the way it is going, it eitherr changes, adapts and becomes a good neighbour, or doom is on its way, with every drop of blood spilled, it gets closer.
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I dont disagree with you here... but it's interesting you mention "neighbour". HA and Hamas' ideology is that Israel should be eliminated. I like what you said here better.
Ok just to end this long post, and so that i don't come across as being negative. I am not. I am actually very proud of what the resistance has achieved. But i am realistic, and although during wartime it is ok to push the "elimination" agenda as a strategy, but at some point we should be realistic and consider that, if (by karma) the moderates prevail in Israel, we should push a mode moderate agenda and consider a compromise solution that could be acceptable to all.