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Once again, i am not attacking the resistance, In fact i really believe we'd be better off without Israel around. But i am just questioning the sometimes overconfidence that we sometimes have that we can eliminate Israel.

Originally Posted by mehdi soldier

well from simply knowledge from football coaching,players are told that the best form of defense is attack.for the fact that groups like hezballah or hamas are resistance movements and they are meant to defend their countries by resisting doesnt mean they cant resist by attacking the enemy or pushing them all the way back into their backyard and if possible into the sea as the popular cliche goes.

I understand the soccer tactics or strategies, and i know they can apply to wars, but in the case of Israel vs. Resistance, the equation is completely different. The Israels are failing in attacking the resistance and/or invading/expanding. But in their own territory, they're pretty protective. Even infiltrating suicide bombers is no longer as easy as it used to be before.

i beg to differ."israel" in 2006 had objectives that were achievable.they wanted to create a 20km buffer zone in south lebanon,free the two captured soldiers,disarm hezballah,etc.if you simply say they failed to eliminate hezballah,naturally that sounds too cheap a victory for the resistance.its close to impossible for anyone to eliminate a movement.

i didnt mean to undermine the victory... I know Israel had the objectives you listed, but i still think their ultimate objective was, if not to eliminate HA, to at least inflict serious damage to the structure, leadership and support for HA, and they failed.

"israel" can be eliminated but zionism cant be eliminated.zionism is a movement or an ideology fixed in the minds of people who believe in it.zionism was before "israel" and will remain even after "israel" is eliminated.the only difference that is if or when "israel" is eliminated the zionist movement wont have a place in the middle east again.it will have to exist in exile.zionism in the middle east will become outlawed as nazism in germany and apartheid in south africa/

"israel" failed in achieving all of its objectiveS in july 2006.that is no coincidence or simply because hezballah outlived the war.its because hezballah stood its ground on the battlefield and taught the zionist soldiers lessons never to make an adventure into lebanon.it was a hard fought and a hard won war for the resistance in lebanon.hezballah didnt won that war simply because it continues to exist or was not eliminated.

There is one way this plan would work.. (1) the arabs unite (after some of the regimes get toppled), (2) the US is no longer a superpower (which can happen if this stagflation/depression gets out of hand.. which is possible!), (3) the rest of the world is too busy (again, maybe global depression?), and (4) the resistance keeps getting continuous supply of weapons.
Without these ingredients, i see the option of removing Israel as a nation a little far fetched.

i think the nuclear weapons "israel" have (if any) are as good as the knives in my kitchen.if they eventually use that weapon they will commit suicide which i guess is against the doctrines of judaism.the weapons they are threatening others with is as much of a threat to them.they should also be scared of those weapons.it will be like a fart.both the one who farted and the one standind close will smell it.

When i was talking about nuclear weapons, i was thinking more of a regional war, say if Iran gets involved and sends missiles to Israel. Trust me, the Israelis have waited thousands of years to get a nation, between getting "eliminated" and using their nuclear weapons, they will use them.