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Default 2nd January 2009

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Originally Posted by ArabJew View Post
When exactly did Egypt re-conquer Sinai peninsula? oh, right, we agreed to return it to the last centimeter to egypt as part of the peace agreements. interesting.
There are a couple of things wrong with this view you have here.

1. having Egypt sidelined from the Arab-Israeli conflict is actually worth giving land for because of Egypts strong influence over the Arab world, without Egypt, the Arab world can not fight, so Israel used this to its advantage and removed this powerful country from the equation.

2. Egypt did fight for its land, 67, 73......

On the other hand you have a weak and divided people in Palestine, Israel exploited this to grab more land.

You leaving Palestine is a certainty, trust me on this keep those bags packed, your flight will leave soon.

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there are two very wrong things with the arab peace initiative:
(A) it is a saudi creation/initiative, not a palestinian one. in particular hamas does not support it and will not accept it. the saudis are promising something they simply cannot deliver. they know it, we know it.
(B) but "just to be on the safe side", syria sabotaged it, with changes to the 'right of return' clauses and tying it with the golan heights issue.
the ambiguity of this clause is the root of all evil, so to speak. someone is playing a cruel game on palestinian refugees, leading them to what will be eventually a civil war which would make the lebanese one pale in comparison. that's not the way to guarantee them a safe and happy life after all the abuse they've taken, from israel and arab countries alike.

now is not a good time to discuss these things, try to keep that in mind though when things calm down.
Mumbo jumbo.... The Arab peace initiative is not the point here, the point is Israel refused to discuss it, if it was really serious about peace it would have called Saudi Arabia and the rest of the arab world on this issue, but it did not because it is not interested in a just solution.

Bags packed?
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