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Originally Posted by chafic  Mount_amel, I'm not sure what do you mean by "shomoolyoon"; What I'm saying is that some parties which are more liberal than others, and clerical religious parties (such as Hezbollah or Hezb Al Tahrir) certainly rank at the bottom of the scale. |
Shoomooly means Totalitarian .. All parties in lebanon do not embrace in practice liberalsim from its humaniterian prespective.
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Originally Posted by chafic I'm not sure how the organization of a party or a group could be used as an argument for or against it in this context. Now regarding giving one's life argument, it doesn't prove much in my opinion. Again, groups such as Fateh El Islam, Taliban, Hamas, Qaeda and the so called Iraqi resistance are also wiling, at any time, to give their life away to resist (each upon his conviction); The act per se is not something to be lauded; The context, the motives, and the purpose -of the individuals and the organizations behind them- are first to be considered. About the case of Hezbollah, it's not a resistance for almost 9 years already, but it still insists on perpetuating war to keep its "raison d'etre". Many other parties did resist (each for a cause) throughout Lebanon's short history, but that should be no justification for any of them to have arms. |
Dont get me wrong, i am not denying other parties' right to resist or thier old role in resisting the Israelis but i am saying the ideology of resisting the Israleis untill the end of occupation was adopted by HA although they have many times clashed with Amal and Communist parties for taking the lead and i in my point of veiw HA was right in his decision because the days have shown us that Communists and Amal were only focusing on Marketing side of the resistance and they lacked the spirit.
Now, the parties of "resistance" you mentioned above are all newley born decentralized and have no deeply studied structure and vision to as what the organization's objectves. They are only volunteeres who escaped poverty and unjust in the Arab world.
HA was establised in different circumstances and these circumstances should be taken in consideration and if you do so you will staisfy one requirement condition for me to go on and disagree or agree with you on the plan of integration or even dismantling HA in an Honourable way.
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Originally Posted by chafic mount_amel, I personally am vehemently against Hezbollah's ideology and political practices, but it being part of the government or political system is the choice of the Lebanese people; If they elect them (based on a fair election law), then they're in. But for that to happen, there are some pre-requisites, such as Hezbollah disarming, dismantling its militia or military branch and denouncing violence.
Now about integrating Hezbollah in the army, that's an idea to be discussed, and its feasibility is disputable. Of course, a similar thing (integration) would entail a whole revamp of the ideology of Hezbollah's fighters and their allegiance.
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You can never defy the choice of people. HA is a choice to some part of your fellow lebanese and we should respect thier choice. The power of change comes when we embrace HA, not ideologically but politically.
I am not a HA fan when it comes to ideology , i more disagree ideologically with hizbollah but i can never deny that they have the spirit of patriotism as much as me and even more. For this reason i dont see why we should revamp HA's fighters allengiance when we know they have fought for lebanon and freed our land from occupiers and yeh lets come and debate its feasiblity and i can assure you it is feasible and in very short time.
Salam