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Originally Posted by vegojimbo I don't want to. But it's nice to see u believe info without proof these days. U've come far. |
Vego, disagreeing is one thing I do not mind at all, that's what discussion is about. But straw mans (and other intended fallacies) is something I do not cherish. As I made it clear quite many times already, I'm not trying to convince you of the info, and I'm not asserting that it's necessarily true, but I was simply noting the source of a member's post's.
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo Wow u got me! |
No, I was serious. There simply is no significant difference, in terms of militiahood and violence, on your scales, between FM and FPM.
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo so HA was fighting with itself for 2 whole days in Beirut, right? |
Yes, for a fight to last 2 days, Hezbollah must have been fighting itself. Noo7 Zaayter could have lasted longer in the fight, or the dudes in my village with their hunting rifles.
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo and the clashes in the North were all child play, right? |
No, but how do they prove that FM is a militia?
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo This has nothing to do with liberalism. In which book is "appearance" considered as a criterion for liberalism? |
It isn't but that wasn't exactly the point.
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo Calling entire cities as red lines is not that liberal. |
What does that even mean?
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo As for freedom of speech, I rather call it freedom of defamation. |
Freedom of speech includes all. FM did not show any attitude of violence or repression toward someone who has different opinions.
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo As for FM being a secular party, no comment. |
I'm not sure why this should be a subject of discussion either; FM is clearly a secular party.
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo I'm against. |
How could you support Hezbollah then? A clerical thecratic party?
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Originally Posted by vegojimbo why? it's obviously not required since u urself believed the fatwa thingy without any proof. |
So again, do you have any proofs?