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Originally Posted by chafic

Dude, ask the Rai for proofs, why are you asking me?

I don't want to. But it's nice to see u believe info without proof these days. U've come far.

And I saw the pictures of FPM militiamen (you know those pictures once shown on the media) and know about the political support (if not more) for militias such as Hezbollah against um, Lebanon.

Wow u got me! so HA was fighting with itself for 2 whole days in Beirut, right? and the clashes in the North were all child play, right?

That's one side of being liberal, but of course, not the very relevant part.

This has nothing to do with liberalism. In which book is "appearance" considered as a criterion for liberalism?

FM has shown more belief in democracy (let's say liberal), personal liberties and freedom of speech than Hezbollah could ever do; They (FM) are still well behind, but they're much closer; At the very least, FM is a secular party.

Calling entire cities as red lines is not that liberal. As for freedom of speech, I rather call it freedom of defamation.
Now about FM being a secular party, no comment.

Fine, but you didn't answer my questions. Are you with or against "giving licences" to Islamic parties?

I'm against. However, it will be very difficult to take away licenses from established islamic parties, however at least we can prevent the rise of new ones.
Personally, if a way can be found to remove licenses from existing islamic parties (HA included), I'm all for it. However,technically it's virtually impossible. Refusing to welcome new islamic entities into the lebanese scene is not though.

Please provide proofs.

why? it's obviously not required or important since u urself believed the fatwa thingy without any proof.