[proIsrael-nonIsraeli]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Here are official statements:

Israel will try to transfer over a million more Palestinian into Lebanon


Here is a little article made by a serious source:

Israel will try to transfer over a million more Palestinian into Lebanon


Here is a very well conducted report of a study,documented by Israeli official sources and statements.(And there is also a public poll)

Israel will try to transfer over a million more Palestinian into Lebanon


Please,do not take it like i'm trying to show off or score some points here.Read very well those references.They are really worth reading if you really aren't familiar with the subject,like you said.You can also ask friends for confirmation,or google about the issue.It's not a secret anymore that Israelis are looking for a way to transfer "Israeli Arabs"

Here is very short summary of those links you provided.

From the top:

#1

"There is certainly abundant evidence that Zionists contemplated transfer of the Arab population of Palestine prior to the War of Independence, but there is no evidence that transfer became public policy, and most advocates had in mind voluntary transfer with compensation. Transfer of the Arabs of Palestine was contemplated in private almost from the outset of the Zionist enterprise, but it was to be a voluntary transfer, and the ideas were generally not made public."

The there are quotes by:

Theodore Herzl dated 06/12/1895
Eli'ezer Kaplan dated 08/1937
Berl Katznelson dated 1938
Joseph Weitz dated 6/22/1941 (Interesting date, btw. Just a coincidence?)
David Ben Gurion dated 12/19/1947
Moshe Sharret dated 8/18/1948


Those quotes definitely may make one think that there is upcoming transfer of million(s?) of Palestinians to Lebanon and other Arab countries. However by its own admission your source states that it is not matter of Israeli policy but rather personal opinions of number of prominent Jews.


#2

"The idea of a 'state for Jews' neutralises the right of some five million Palestinian refugees to return to what is now Israel," Abdel-Halim Kandil, former editor-in-chief of opposition weekly al-Karama told IPS. "It would also subject Arabs resident in Israel to the possibility of expulsion at any moment."

This link is an opinion piece.

Now, does it really have anything new here and does it confirm your opinion that upcoming transfer of million(s?) of Palestinians to Lebanon is imminent?

Israel always denied right of return. Does it really mean that Israeli Arabs will be expelled into Lebanon or elsewhere? If so, I do not see how.

"It must be clear to everyone that the state of Israel is a national homeland for Jewish people," she [Tsipi Livni] said.

Is it really new or unusual? Wasn't that whole purpose for coming back? But how does it mean that remaining Arabs will be expelled? Isn't Israel Jewish state today? Do you see Arabs or Christians or Muslims being expelled? I do not.


"Israel hopes to exploit the situation [like Gaza wall destruction] ...to bring about calls by the international community for the resettlement of Palestinian refugees in Sinai,"

That I find plausible but as quiet desire only. In reality it is only possible to implement if Egypt (I stress, Egypt) will start war against Israel and Hamas will get involved. The same idea would probably be with Jordan and WB. But let's face it, how likely is that? Not very.


"Such a move would only encourage notions of religious exclusivity and lead to more conflict and intolerance in the Middle East"

This one is complete nonsense. You do not need to have Israel if you are looking for examples of religious or sectarian intolerance in the Middle East. It is your very intolerance, which forces Israelis to be suspicious of potential fifth column. When in Rome do what Romans do.


#3

"Piling their furniture and personal belongings into a truck, the last residents of Yanoun abandoned their West Bank village on October 18, 2002. "Our life here is more bitter than hell," said one villager, lamenting years of attacks, recently intensified, from Israeli settlers living nearby. Over the past months, rampaging bands had smashed windows, destroyed water tanks, burned the village's electric generator, stolen sheep, beaten villagers and shot at workers in the fields.(1) The Israeli government implicitly endorsed this act of ethnic cleansing, failing to return the Palestinians to their homes, or even to condemn the settlers' aggression verbally. To the contrary, in Yanoun as elsewhere, the police and army have sided openly with the marauding settlers. Five village men subsequently returned to the village with the help of peace activists, but it is unclear how long they will be able to hold out."

This one if true is very disturbing. However, now one detail. Peace activists and extremists are Israeli citizens. So, you have both sides represented here, yet you see only one.

Again, I do not condone it but do you think Intifada is one-sided process? Why do you think that you should not have repercussions to your actions ever? Quick quiz: who started summer war of 2006 between Israel and Lebanon?


"In the early 1980s, Rabbi Meir Kahane ..."

Why is there need to refer to the party outlawed in Israel? Do you really think its statements are correct reflection of official Israeli policy?


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To conclude.

Thank you for the info. I find it very interesting.

Now, facts and opinions you offer may indeed convince one to believe what you believe in and also may not. It depends on your bias and mine.


Here is a bit of practical approach.

1. Please, explain how is it politically possible for Israel to expel million(s?) of people?
2. Please, show how is it physically possible?


Thank you again.