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Default Re: Abortion - 24th February 2005

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Originally Posted by LebanesePride
A born child stays dependant on outside and others help for many years. That does not make it right to kill it (im not implying you ment that, im just replying point by point)
a born child is not dependent on the Body of the woman for life support whereas a fetus is physically attached to the woman by the placenta and umbilicus. This was my counter argument to those that believe in the distinct human being characteristic of a fetus..

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Originally Posted by LebanesePride
Yes its a woman's burden to carry the child for 9 monthes, but its that child's whole life thats at stake.
well it is not a burden per say.. God wanted women to give childbirth maybe cz a man won't survive this ordeal and because he trusted feminine instinct.
child's whole life? 1st it is a fetus, 2nd The bare point is women control their bodies and their pregnancies! and I've got news for you, you can't stop them for doing the right or wrong choice! You should just trust us in our decisions.

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Originally Posted by LebanesePride
Laws have not stopped murder nor theft either.
Irrelevant comparaison... Abortion is NO Murder..Even you as a pro-life don't believe that abortion is a murder because you sanction abortion if the mother's life is in danger.
Anti I/Anti S said outlawing WILL reduce the #. statistics prove that 40% of performed abortions were illegal... thus my argument that outlawing it is not a deterrent...


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Originally Posted by LebanesePride
Between the right of choice of the mother, and the right of LIFE of the baby, i chose life.
Nor is a born baby. Laws must protect it.
for a worst case scenario if the woman is a junky that has zero motherhood instincts, willingly didn't use "morning after pills" and she wants to get rid of the pregnancy. How and why on earth would you stop her? put her on surveillance for 9 months? then sterilize her?!

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Originally Posted by LebanesePride
Abortion should only be allowed in case a mother is in danger, health dangers because of the pregnancy.
Why the exception? God gives life and god takes them.. let the divine decide.. either the mother survives. or the fetus only orby miracle both...!
and what about rape and incest victims? should we victimize these women one more time? isn't it enough?
we don't need the permission for anyone to tell us what to do with our bodies knowing that we are responsible and intelligent enough to take the good decision. Legal abortion would allow this operation to be performed in hospitals under the care of qualified personel.

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All matters concerning her right to chose in general, her financial well-being, how much she wants it, seem rather small in comparison with taking away life..
It is not for financial well-being nor a capricious decision, it is for reasons that are beyond you and me and far from being irrational.. Abortion is a very painful operation not a visit to the mall. It is not the easiest solution but the necessary one.

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The whole debate i believes shrinks to how and when you consider life to have begun, as you mentioned.
Yes and to woman's right to control her body

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I believe that as a fetus, the process of development has started. And it doesnt stop. A born baby is not fully developped either, neither are we....
yes nobody is fully developed and we as human are far from being the most developped creators on earth!

Last edited by PhoenixResurrection; 24th February 2005 at 02:25 AM..
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