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Default 1st November 2009

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Originally Posted by amalhope View Post
Hi Salome!

I think, for the reasons outlined in the video, we cannot equate between both sides. If you haven't watched the video, please do:
YouTube - The Story of Palestine from A to X
I saw the video, it's a very good one:)

Well surely the sides in strength are not equal, but you think the world would accept a solution which makes only the arabs happy?

On the other hand will we really accept that all human lives are equally valuable, regardless of religion and nationality. Meaning a jew's life is equally valuable as an arab's life and vice versa?

I know in reality very few can accept this moral ground on both sides, because majority can not look beyond their hatred and wounds...so there you go, doomed from the beginning.


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One side (generally speaking) is the aggressor in this conflict, the other (generally speaking) is the victim or the respondent.

A happy ending is any solution that permits Palestinian refugees to go back to their original homes/villages/cities. A two-state solution cannot work because it's unjust to Palestinians. You can't ask a Palestinian family from Haifa or Yaffa to go back to Gaza or the West Bank!! That's just not fair. Perhaps a one-state solution with lots of education and tolerance-building on both sides could work.
So this means no happy ending for Israel...which also means no solution for the next 100 years, great we will have generations of Palestinians who never saw peace and normal life therefore you imprinted hatred deep already in their DNA. Isn't that already a recipe for an armageddon?


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The right to return might not be practiced by all Palestinians who have started lives in other countries, but they need to have that right. Whether they decide to exercise it or not is up to them.
Am sorry but the right of return, however just it is, is not realistic. At least in the next decades to come.


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I don't believe in armageddons or prophecies and the reason I made this video is to contest religious talk on both sides. I was hoping to divert discussion from the usual religious jargon. The Palestinian-Israeli conflict has been made into a religious conflict when it shouldn't be or have ever been so.
By armageddon I meant a clean cut solution like nukes dropped on the whole region:D I know it is not a soltuion but the situation is so desperate


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True. There is a lot of ignorant violence. However, sometimes violence cannot be avoided. Israel practiced systematic violence against Palestinians. Palestinians had no other choice:
YouTube - Israeli Brutality - The Occupation, Human Rights Violations and War Crimes
I think they are doing it on purpose to keep the violence alive...it is essential for Israel's survival.


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We also need to remember that we live in a hierarchical world. Even resistance or any form of violent response is done by the poorer of society on the most part. It's mostly carried out by those who have nothing to lose for putting their lives at risk. Some die believing in their cause, others die because they've been brainwashed that heaven awaits them with its virgins.

Note that here I am talking about legitimate resistance, not Bin Laden type of "terrorism". I understand that this can sometimes be too subjective and that the line between "resistance" and "terrorism" is a fine one, and sometimes legitimate resistance includes "terrorism" or intilling fear in your enemy's psyche!
Tell me about that thin line...I was giving once a speech on Hamas and Hezbollah, and some academic/governmental @ssholes found my speech too biased and felt kinda offended how I dare to show them facts about the Israeli aggression and how I dare call HA and Hamas resistence....no chance in the western mainstream media they are considered terrorists
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